Re: Surgery & Smokers

From: Bernie and Beverly Doucette (bnb@cybrzn.com)
Mon Aug 14 06:56:20 2000


That a girl!!! My prayers are with as you move to getting a higher quality of life......stay with it now!! And do NOT settle for less then the best!! Yourself first.... and then Dr's R&R!!!

Bev

>----- Original Message -----
From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Surgery & Smokers

> I think I really opened a can of worms with this one...LOL I do plan on
> quiting. I already e-mailed Dr. Redan & told him I have already
> started cutting down & have patches for when I quit, to help me along. I
> just have to keep praying about the finanial end of things. I am still
> not sure where the money will come from. Thank you all for your support
> here. I dont know what I would have done with out this site!! Since
> your surgery on April 99, have you been pain free? My last surgery I was
> only pain free for 3 months (A glorious 3 months). Right now my biggest
> concern (besides the finances)is that Dr. Redan wants me to cut back on
> my pain meds. I know I am taking a lot of meds, but I still have pain.
> Before I was put on this combination of meds, I was just about totally
> bed ridden. I dont want to be that way now. I have too much going on
> to reduce my meds & be in bed most of the time. I want to thank every
> one for there support & the links on quiting smoking & there e-mails to
> me. Thank you!!
> Robin
>
> At Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Bernie and Beverly Doucette wrote:
> >
> >Dearest Robin...
> >Try to quite, having surgery with R&R is the most wonderful gift in the
> >world..as long as you can get to them, and many cannot, try your best to
> >stop smoking and give yourself a chance to be well rid of your ARD!! Do
this > >for YOU.....you have a very serious disease, it will not get better, only
> >worse, read our stories on the quilt ( I am not sure if mine is one there
> >right now...but read Christina Bueltemans...she died Kanuary 2000 at 42
> >years old, she never had the chance that you have!! ) Please do not look
at > >all this smoking stuff as a negative issue, look at it as what it really
> >is...something you can fight , and fight it will be as it is an
additction! > >If this whole situation with adhesions, DR. Redan and smoking were your
> >daughter...what would you support her in doing? Live with the ARD for as
> >long as she could and to live with ARD is NOT to be living at all, or
would > >you transfer her to a lesser skilled surgeon because she wouldn't quite
> >smoking, ( note I said " wouldn't stop " NOT "couldn't stop" )
> >
> >Robin....please go for it...try to stop, give yourself a chance at life!
I > >work in assisiting so many many suffering ARD people, and to see them
> >suffer, and never get a chance at having an appointment with Dr's reich
and > >Redan just breaks my heart...YOU have that chance, my dear, just give it
a > >try! Look at your suppport here, it IS great to be sure, BUT all the
support > >in the world will not make you stop smoking..that will come from within
your > >heart and mind,,and through prayers you can accomplish that..but it must
be > >a positive thought in your mind, not one of such fear, pessimism or
> >restraint within your self or it will not work! ( I don't think anyway,
if > >it did work it would certainlky be harder with neagative thoughts on
it!! ) > >PLEASE try to do this..as to try is to have already won!
> >
> >To all:
> >I am off to the hospital this morning, received at phone 5:15 am this
> >morning!! It was one of the most exciting calls a parent could receive
as > >my wonderful husband and I are about to be first time GRANDPARENTS to our
> >new little grandson " Jacob "..of course Jacob has not arrived to join us
as > >I write this, but we hear he cannot wait to meet us once he comes into
this > >world today.. our daughter in law Jenny is doing good..but it sounds like
> >our son needs us more then she does!!
> >(....as many of you know ...I was dying from ARD only one and a half
years > >ago..DR. Reich gave me back my life April 22, 1999 and there is not a day
> >that goes by that I don't appreciate what I have been given!! A day like
> >today I am filled with such appreciation to just be able to get up and
make > >the three hour trip without any hesitation, pain suffering or even a
second > >thought about my health!! Thank goodness as i can hardly think anyway as
I > >am so excited!!)
> >It is times like this that I know what life really means and I am so
happy > >and thankfull to be able to be part of all this..our grandson is coming
and > >I can be there to hold him, touch him, laugh, cry, hug everyone, take
> >pictures..my GOD I am living again..and it feels great!!!!! ...and Mary
> >POmroy is ready to share all this with us!!
> >
> >Robin...may all this be in your future too!
> >
> >God be with you all ...
> >Bev
> >

>> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> > >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 8:06 AM
> >Subject: Re: Surgery & Smokers
> >
> >> Thank you for your point of view. As a smoker of 20+ years, I do know
> >> that it is bad for your heath & advise those who dont smoke, never to
> >> start & those who just started to stop now, while they still can. I
> >> wish I would have never started & have tried to quit many times. I
hate > >> saying my mother is right, but... she was when she told me one day I
> >> would want to quit & wouldnt be able to. I am giving quiting another
> >> shot, because it will mean that Dr Redan will do surgery on me. Thanks
> >> for all the suport & love.
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> At Sun, 13 Aug 2000, rsh4799@att.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> >I find myself in a difficult position of not agreeing
> >> >with the choice the doctors are making in not treating
> >> >those that smoke.
> >> >
> >> >Would an ER doctor not save your life because you are a
> >> >homeless person or a drug addict or gay?
> >> >
> >> >Would a dentist not work on your teeth because you don't
> >> >brush your teeth regularly?
> >> >
> >> >I think that these doctors Redan and Reich although
> >> >being highly skilled may be treading on judgement rather
> >> >than giving people a chance even if it is complicated by
> >> >bad health habits.
> >> >
> >> >I myself don't smoke. I see the dangers of smoking.
> >> >
> >> >This is only an observation of these discussions. I
> >> >don't wish to publicly debate the qualifications of
> >> >these doctors nor defend smoking. I just don't agree.
> >> >
> >> >Richard
> >> >
> >> >> Please try to discuss any type of smoking cessation methods with
your > >> >> current medical care provider. There are patches available that will
> >offer
> >> >> you some help in decreasing and possibly quitting the smoking! Dr.
> >Redan is
> >> >> correct in his statement that the cells of a smoking person do not
heal > >as
> >> >> fast as a non smoker as the oxygen is depleted by the pathogens
within > >the
> >> >> smoke that is taken into your system. As with breathing oxygen,
parts > >of the
> >> >> oxygen are taken from the lungs and dispensed into our bodies..and
that > >is
> >> >> then carried out to the cells and tissues of the body, when a
pathogen > >is
> >> >> taken into our respiratory system..there is depletion of what the
body > >> >> requires to keep the cells healthy...and in most cases with inhaling
> >> >> chemicals in the smoke ( smoke of any kind from any source ) is
taken > >into
> >> >> the lung cells and depletes the good stuff that goes out into your
body > >as
> >> >> well as puts out the pathogens into your cells!
> >> >>
> >> >> Not only do you and will you suffer from unhealthy and fully
oxygenated > >> >> blood cells, you also place your lungs in jeopardy by weakening the
> >cells in
> >> >> your lungs and destroying the tissues and that alone will cause
> >difficulty
> >> >> with anesthesiology during surgery.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is nothing new to either smokers or non smokers, it is simply a
> >> >> fact..and a not so good one for the smoker. Not only are you in a
> >position
> >> >> of addition, which is very difficult to fight, and probably will not
be > >> >> fought by you alone at this time Robin, as you do have increased
stress > >with
> >> >> suffering ARD, BUT...your life depends on what choices and the type
of > >help
> >> >> you secure in stopping the smoking in order to get the most highly
> >skilled
> >> >> surgeon to help you through his a surgery that will offer you a
better > >> >> life..in fact, it will offer you a life period!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Slow down in your thinking right now, relax and take it a step at a
> >time.
> >> >> Maybe it does mean no surgery from Redan & Reich...can you blame
them? > >You
> >> >> can take care of this part of your health...no need to panick, just
> >look
> >> >> this over and get started on it if you want them to do your surgery!
> >If you
> >> >> were in need of heart surgery, a transplant or anything of that
> >caliber, you
> >> >> would have the same requirements...and the surgery planned for
> >adhesions is
> >> >> just as important as any of the others as it means YOUR life and and
> >> >> future!! Most people that smoke take an offense and suffer not only
> >guilt,
> >> >> but fear at how to stop it....especially when it means your life
> >depends on
> >> >> it....do what you can to find a good source of medical intervention
> >for
> >> >> helping you to quite, you have the ARD, nothing will change that
short > >of
> >> >> surgery and nothing you do short of surgery will change that
ARD...but > >YOU
> >> >> can take control and responsibility for the smoking as there is help
> >for
> >> >> that and that help can be found and implemented by YOU...will it be
> >easy,
> >> >> well, as easy or difficult as YOU make it, with the proper mind set
and > >> >> determination, Robin, you can do anything...and to stop smoking in
> >order to
> >> >> give yourself a chance live without pain the rest of your
life...well, > >that
> >> >> is all up to you!
> >> >>
> >> >> To quite smoking is not a fight we all have to make in our quest to
> >get
> >> >> well from adhesion disease, and who needs to fight that on top of
> >adhesions,
> >> >> but in your case you do have that fight...and in the end, the news
is > >good
> >> >> for you..your health and your life....one is in your hands and the
> >other
> >> >> waits for you!
> >> >>
> >> >> Best of luck my dear
> >> >>
> >> >> Bev

>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
> >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> ><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:33 PM
> >> >> Subject: Surgery & Smokers
> >> >>
> >> >> > Are there others that smoke besides me? Dr Redan emailed me
earlier & > >he
> >> >> > told me "As you already know......No smokers...Your risk of
adhesions > >> >> > returning is VERY High as this keeps oxygen from getting to the
> >healing
> >> >> > post-surgical tissues and almost certainly will result in a
recurrent > >> >> > problem. Please try and quit ASAP." I have tried to quit several
> >times
> >> >> > before. I have never been told to quit for surgery, although I
have > >> >> > been told to cut back as much as I could & take a breathing
treatment > >> >> > the night before & the morning before surgery. This is adding
more > >> >> > stress. Now I am much more scared & more frustrated. Now I will
> >worry
> >> >> > about whether or not I will be able to quit. What If I can't,
does > >that
> >> >> > mean I cant have surgery? Any advice would be appreciated.
> >> >> > Thank you,
> >> >> > Robin
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Robin
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Robin
> >>
>
> --
> Robin
>


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