Take Care, Susn
At Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Bernie and Beverly Doucette wrote:
>
>That a girl!!! My prayers are with as you move to getting a higher quality
>of life......stay with it now!!
>And do NOT settle for less then the best!! Yourself first.... and then Dr's
>R&R!!!
>
>Bev
>>----- Original Message -----
>From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 4:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Surgery & Smokers
>
>> I think I really opened a can of worms with this one...LOL I do plan on
>> quiting. I already e-mailed Dr. Redan & told him I have already
>> started cutting down & have patches for when I quit, to help me along. I
>> just have to keep praying about the finanial end of things. I am still
>> not sure where the money will come from. Thank you all for your support
>> here. I dont know what I would have done with out this site!! Since
>> your surgery on April 99, have you been pain free? My last surgery I was
>> only pain free for 3 months (A glorious 3 months). Right now my biggest
>> concern (besides the finances)is that Dr. Redan wants me to cut back on
>> my pain meds. I know I am taking a lot of meds, but I still have pain.
>> Before I was put on this combination of meds, I was just about totally
>> bed ridden. I dont want to be that way now. I have too much going on
>> to reduce my meds & be in bed most of the time. I want to thank every
>> one for there support & the links on quiting smoking & there e-mails to
>> me. Thank you!!
>> Robin
>>
>> At Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Bernie and Beverly Doucette wrote:
>> >
>> >Dearest Robin...
>> >Try to quite, having surgery with R&R is the most wonderful gift in the
>> >world..as long as you can get to them, and many cannot, try your best to
>> >stop smoking and give yourself a chance to be well rid of your ARD!! Do
>this
>> >for YOU.....you have a very serious disease, it will not get better, only
>> >worse, read our stories on the quilt ( I am not sure if mine is one there
>> >right now...but read Christina Bueltemans...she died Kanuary 2000 at 42
>> >years old, she never had the chance that you have!! ) Please do not look
>at
>> >all this smoking stuff as a negative issue, look at it as what it really
>> >is...something you can fight , and fight it will be as it is an
>additction!
>> >If this whole situation with adhesions, DR. Redan and smoking were your
>> >daughter...what would you support her in doing? Live with the ARD for as
>> >long as she could and to live with ARD is NOT to be living at all, or
>would
>> >you transfer her to a lesser skilled surgeon because she wouldn't quite
>> >smoking, ( note I said " wouldn't stop " NOT "couldn't stop" )
>> >
>> >Robin....please go for it...try to stop, give yourself a chance at life!
>I
>> >work in assisiting so many many suffering ARD people, and to see them
>> >suffer, and never get a chance at having an appointment with Dr's reich
>and
>> >Redan just breaks my heart...YOU have that chance, my dear, just give it
>a
>> >try! Look at your suppport here, it IS great to be sure, BUT all the
>support
>> >in the world will not make you stop smoking..that will come from within
>your
>> >heart and mind,,and through prayers you can accomplish that..but it must
>be
>> >a positive thought in your mind, not one of such fear, pessimism or
>> >restraint within your self or it will not work! ( I don't think anyway,
>if
>> >it did work it would certainlky be harder with neagative thoughts on
>it!! )
>> >PLEASE try to do this..as to try is to have already won!
>> >
>> >To all:
>> >I am off to the hospital this morning, received at phone 5:15 am this
>> >morning!! It was one of the most exciting calls a parent could receive
>as
>> >my wonderful husband and I are about to be first time GRANDPARENTS to our
>> >new little grandson " Jacob "..of course Jacob has not arrived to join us
>as
>> >I write this, but we hear he cannot wait to meet us once he comes into
>this
>> >world today.. our daughter in law Jenny is doing good..but it sounds like
>> >our son needs us more then she does!!
>> >(....as many of you know ...I was dying from ARD only one and a half
>years
>> >ago..DR. Reich gave me back my life April 22, 1999 and there is not a day
>> >that goes by that I don't appreciate what I have been given!! A day like
>> >today I am filled with such appreciation to just be able to get up and
>make
>> >the three hour trip without any hesitation, pain suffering or even a
>second
>> >thought about my health!! Thank goodness as i can hardly think anyway as
>I
>> >am so excited!!)
>> >It is times like this that I know what life really means and I am so
>happy
>> >and thankfull to be able to be part of all this..our grandson is coming
>and
>> >I can be there to hold him, touch him, laugh, cry, hug everyone, take
>> >pictures..my GOD I am living again..and it feels great!!!!! ...and Mary
>> >POmroy is ready to share all this with us!!
>> >
>> >Robin...may all this be in your future too!
>> >
>> >God be with you all ...
>> >Bev
>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
>> >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 8:06 AM
>> >Subject: Re: Surgery & Smokers
>> >
>> >> Thank you for your point of view. As a smoker of 20+ years, I do know
>> >> that it is bad for your heath & advise those who dont smoke, never to
>> >> start & those who just started to stop now, while they still can. I
>> >> wish I would have never started & have tried to quit many times. I
>hate
>> >> saying my mother is right, but... she was when she told me one day I
>> >> would want to quit & wouldnt be able to. I am giving quiting another
>> >> shot, because it will mean that Dr Redan will do surgery on me. Thanks
>> >> for all the suport & love.
>> >> Robin
>> >>
>> >> At Sun, 13 Aug 2000, rsh4799@att.net wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >I find myself in a difficult position of not agreeing
>> >> >with the choice the doctors are making in not treating
>> >> >those that smoke.
>> >> >
>> >> >Would an ER doctor not save your life because you are a
>> >> >homeless person or a drug addict or gay?
>> >> >
>> >> >Would a dentist not work on your teeth because you don't
>> >> >brush your teeth regularly?
>> >> >
>> >> >I think that these doctors Redan and Reich although
>> >> >being highly skilled may be treading on judgement rather
>> >> >than giving people a chance even if it is complicated by
>> >> >bad health habits.
>> >> >
>> >> >I myself don't smoke. I see the dangers of smoking.
>> >> >
>> >> >This is only an observation of these discussions. I
>> >> >don't wish to publicly debate the qualifications of
>> >> >these doctors nor defend smoking. I just don't agree.
>> >> >
>> >> >Richard
>> >> >
>> >> >> Please try to discuss any type of smoking cessation methods with
>your
>> >> >> current medical care provider. There are patches available that will
>> >offer
>> >> >> you some help in decreasing and possibly quitting the smoking! Dr.
>> >Redan is
>> >> >> correct in his statement that the cells of a smoking person do not
>heal
>> >as
>> >> >> fast as a non smoker as the oxygen is depleted by the pathogens
>within
>> >the
>> >> >> smoke that is taken into your system. As with breathing oxygen,
>parts
>> >of the
>> >> >> oxygen are taken from the lungs and dispensed into our bodies..and
>that
>> >is
>> >> >> then carried out to the cells and tissues of the body, when a
>pathogen
>> >is
>> >> >> taken into our respiratory system..there is depletion of what the
>body
>> >> >> requires to keep the cells healthy...and in most cases with inhaling
>> >> >> chemicals in the smoke ( smoke of any kind from any source ) is
>taken
>> >into
>> >> >> the lung cells and depletes the good stuff that goes out into your
>body
>> >as
>> >> >> well as puts out the pathogens into your cells!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not only do you and will you suffer from unhealthy and fully
>oxygenated
>> >> >> blood cells, you also place your lungs in jeopardy by weakening the
>> >cells in
>> >> >> your lungs and destroying the tissues and that alone will cause
>> >difficulty
>> >> >> with anesthesiology during surgery.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is nothing new to either smokers or non smokers, it is simply a
>> >> >> fact..and a not so good one for the smoker. Not only are you in a
>> >position
>> >> >> of addition, which is very difficult to fight, and probably will not
>be
>> >> >> fought by you alone at this time Robin, as you do have increased
>stress
>> >with
>> >> >> suffering ARD, BUT...your life depends on what choices and the type
>of
>> >help
>> >> >> you secure in stopping the smoking in order to get the most highly
>> >skilled
>> >> >> surgeon to help you through his a surgery that will offer you a
>better
>> >> >> life..in fact, it will offer you a life period!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Slow down in your thinking right now, relax and take it a step at a
>> >time.
>> >> >> Maybe it does mean no surgery from Redan & Reich...can you blame
>them?
>> >You
>> >> >> can take care of this part of your health...no need to panick, just
>> >look
>> >> >> this over and get started on it if you want them to do your surgery!
>> >If you
>> >> >> were in need of heart surgery, a transplant or anything of that
>> >caliber, you
>> >> >> would have the same requirements...and the surgery planned for
>> >adhesions is
>> >> >> just as important as any of the others as it means YOUR life and and
>> >> >> future!! Most people that smoke take an offense and suffer not only
>> >guilt,
>> >> >> but fear at how to stop it....especially when it means your life
>> >depends on
>> >> >> it....do what you can to find a good source of medical intervention
>> >for
>> >> >> helping you to quite, you have the ARD, nothing will change that
>short
>> >of
>> >> >> surgery and nothing you do short of surgery will change that
>ARD...but
>> >YOU
>> >> >> can take control and responsibility for the smoking as there is help
>> >for
>> >> >> that and that help can be found and implemented by YOU...will it be
>> >easy,
>> >> >> well, as easy or difficult as YOU make it, with the proper mind set
>and
>> >> >> determination, Robin, you can do anything...and to stop smoking in
>> >order to
>> >> >> give yourself a chance live without pain the rest of your
>life...well,
>> >that
>> >> >> is all up to you!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To quite smoking is not a fight we all have to make in our quest to
>> >get
>> >> >> well from adhesion disease, and who needs to fight that on top of
>> >adhesions,
>> >> >> but in your case you do have that fight...and in the end, the news
>is
>> >good
>> >> >> for you..your health and your life....one is in your hands and the
>> >other
>> >> >> waits for you!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best of luck my dear
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bev
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
>> >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>> ><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:33 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Surgery & Smokers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Are there others that smoke besides me? Dr Redan emailed me
>earlier &
>> >he
>> >> >> > told me "As you already know......No smokers...Your risk of
>adhesions
>> >> >> > returning is VERY High as this keeps oxygen from getting to the
>> >healing
>> >> >> > post-surgical tissues and almost certainly will result in a
>recurrent
>> >> >> > problem. Please try and quit ASAP." I have tried to quit several
>> >times
>> >> >> > before. I have never been told to quit for surgery, although I
>have
>> >> >> > been told to cut back as much as I could & take a breathing
>treatment
>> >> >> > the night before & the morning before surgery. This is adding
>more
>> >> >> > stress. Now I am much more scared & more frustrated. Now I will
>> >worry
>> >> >> > about whether or not I will be able to quit. What If I can't,
>does
>> >that
>> >> >> > mean I cant have surgery? Any advice would be appreciated.
>> >> >> > Thank you,
>> >> >> > Robin
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Robin
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Robin
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Robin
>>