Re: ADHESIONS digest 795

From: edward vinson (argent@hemc.net)
Sun Jan 28 10:47:44 2001


It is usually NOT a good idea to just stop a drug, especially one that is mood altering. Read your pharmacy inserts, most of these types of drugs do effect sex drive and you sound like you are like most of us, the sex life really gets hurt by this condition.....There are other drugs your doctor could have you try it's like hormone replacement therapy, everyone is different and different things work for different people. I know personally for instance if I take a drug too long it is no longer is effective and that is not unusual so you have to have a good rapport with your doctor or his/her nurse-if you are taking a drug and it is having any adverse reaction on you or your life let them know and ask for something else-there are many choices now.

good luck in friendship, ann-georgia

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Adhesions Society" <adhesions@adhesions.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@forum.obgyn.net> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: ADHESIONS digest 795

> ADHESIONS Digest 795
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by jillhumb@crosswinds.net (Jill)
> 2) RE: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by "Richard Hagen" <rsh4799@att.net>
> 3) RE: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by "Richard Hagen" <rsh4799@att.net>
> 4) ANTI-DEPRESSANT... has a low risk of sexual side effects.
> by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> 5) INTIMACY & DEPRESSION...
> by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> 6) Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by acbcsrt@kansas.net
> 7) Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by kaymoran@genevaonline.com (Kay in Wisconsin)
> 8) Elke's 2nd look lap
> by rmasse2333@aol.com (Robin)
> 9) DEPRESSION...Information for patients taking Wellbutrin SR
> by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> 10) Drs. R&R
> by "Teresa Waldrop" <twaldro3@bellsouth.net>
> 11) Can you help?
> by "Teresa Waldrop" <twaldro3@bellsouth.net>
> 12) Re: Can you help?
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Dr. Gerhart)
> 13) Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> by jillhumb@crosswinds.net (Jill)
> 14) Re: It's been a long time.....Someone from Schenectady!
> by STIVBOY525@.COM (NORMA)
> 15) Re: Study Group
> by jenklow@hotmail.com (Jenny)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:20:35 -0600 (CST)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: jillhumb@crosswinds.net (Jill)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <200101271720.LAA29093@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Hello to all - I've been daily reading and absorbing all info here, but
> haven't posted much about my condition. My new (and very nice) gastro
> that I first saw in November, definitely believes I have adhesions as a
> result of my 3 c sections and recent abd. hyst.
> She also wanted to rule out other issues, so we have gone through many
> tests, which of course reveal nothing to explain my pain and discomfort
> and worsening bowel problems.
>
> In late November, she started me on Nortriptyline, which seemed to help
> after a few weeks, as I was having alot of trouble sleeping due to the
> terrible pulling and stabbing pains along my rib cage. Since the end of
> December, I seem to no longer get any relief from this rx, and it also
> seems to be really affecting my sex drive, which isn't great these days
> anyways. I just feel so numb, and can't seem to have any emotion or
> feeling about it. My hubby asked me to stop taking it two days ago, as
> he is getting frustrated by this. So, today I noticed that I have cried
> almost all day, and I feel myself slipping into a dark depressive state
> again. I do think the nortriptyline was helping me not be so depressed.
>
> What to do???? My condition worsens each month, and both my doctors
> agree the next step is to talk with a surgeon who is very skilled in lap
> procedures. We have a wonderful 7 day carribbean cruise planned, and we
> leave in two weeks, and I can't even get excited about it - I'm so
> worried that I'll have major bowel problems and pain . . . I'm really
> having to watch what I eat anymore, and I never had to before!! I go
> from terribly constipated, to having diahrea for a two day span, then
> back again. The sounds from my intestines are all day long now - my
> hubby says it sounds like a pinball arcade.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent today - my heart goes out to all of you who
> are suffering.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:05:12 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Richard Hagen" <rsh4799@att.net>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: RE: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <NEBBINPMALDGEDLAAJPNGELPCAAA.rsh4799@att.net>
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> Try St Johns Wort. It works without side effects and is (was) the most
> widely prescribed anti depressive in Europe.
> Get it at the health food store. I'm serious. A psych doctor I saw for
> awhile said he had no problems with people using it instead of other
> anti-depressives. Some people don't see an effect but it is very mild and
> you have to keep a diary to see the beneficial effects. I stopped it after
6 > mo and occasionally go back on it. No more dark days and nights.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org]On Behalf
> Of Jill
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> Subject: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
>
> Hello to all - I've been daily reading and absorbing all info here, but
> haven't posted much about my condition. My new (and very nice) gastro
> that I first saw in November, definitely believes I have adhesions as a
> result of my 3 c sections and recent abd. hyst.
> She also wanted to rule out other issues, so we have gone through many
> tests, which of course reveal nothing to explain my pain and discomfort
> and worsening bowel problems.
>
> In late November, she started me on Nortriptyline, which seemed to help
> after a few weeks, as I was having alot of trouble sleeping due to the
> terrible pulling and stabbing pains along my rib cage. Since the end of
> December, I seem to no longer get any relief from this rx, and it also
> seems to be really affecting my sex drive, which isn't great these days
> anyways. I just feel so numb, and can't seem to have any emotion or
> feeling about it. My hubby asked me to stop taking it two days ago, as
> he is getting frustrated by this. So, today I noticed that I have cried
> almost all day, and I feel myself slipping into a dark depressive state
> again. I do think the nortriptyline was helping me not be so depressed.
>
> What to do???? My condition worsens each month, and both my doctors
> agree the next step is to talk with a surgeon who is very skilled in lap
> procedures. We have a wonderful 7 day carribbean cruise planned, and we
> leave in two weeks, and I can't even get excited about it - I'm so
> worried that I'll have major bowel problems and pain . . . I'm really
> having to watch what I eat anymore, and I never had to before!! I go
> from terribly constipated, to having diahrea for a two day span, then
> back again. The sounds from my intestines are all day long now - my
> hubby says it sounds like a pinball arcade.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent today - my heart goes out to all of you who
> are suffering.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:06:22 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Richard Hagen" <rsh4799@att.net>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: RE: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <NEBBINPMALDGEDLAAJPNKELPCAAA.rsh4799@att.net>
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> Bowel sounds are good. No sounds are bad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org]On Behalf
> Of Jill
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> Subject: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
>
> Hello to all - I've been daily reading and absorbing all info here, but
> haven't posted much about my condition. My new (and very nice) gastro
> that I first saw in November, definitely believes I have adhesions as a
> result of my 3 c sections and recent abd. hyst.
> She also wanted to rule out other issues, so we have gone through many
> tests, which of course reveal nothing to explain my pain and discomfort
> and worsening bowel problems.
>
> In late November, she started me on Nortriptyline, which seemed to help
> after a few weeks, as I was having alot of trouble sleeping due to the
> terrible pulling and stabbing pains along my rib cage. Since the end of
> December, I seem to no longer get any relief from this rx, and it also
> seems to be really affecting my sex drive, which isn't great these days
> anyways. I just feel so numb, and can't seem to have any emotion or
> feeling about it. My hubby asked me to stop taking it two days ago, as
> he is getting frustrated by this. So, today I noticed that I have cried
> almost all day, and I feel myself slipping into a dark depressive state
> again. I do think the nortriptyline was helping me not be so depressed.
>
> What to do???? My condition worsens each month, and both my doctors
> agree the next step is to talk with a surgeon who is very skilled in lap
> procedures. We have a wonderful 7 day carribbean cruise planned, and we
> leave in two weeks, and I can't even get excited about it - I'm so
> worried that I'll have major bowel problems and pain . . . I'm really
> having to watch what I eat anymore, and I never had to before!! I go
> from terribly constipated, to having diahrea for a two day span, then
> back again. The sounds from my intestines are all day long now - my
> hubby says it sounds like a pinball arcade.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent today - my heart goes out to all of you who
> are suffering.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:13:08 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> To: <adhesions@obgyn.net>
> Subject: ANTI-DEPRESSANT... has a low risk of sexual side effects.
> Message-ID: <001501c0888c$cf686c20$ab1593ce@olddad66>
>
> []]>WELLBUTRIN SR ( bupropion hydrochloride )
>
> >>Does WELLBUTRIN SR have a low risk of sexual side effects?
>
> Yes. In fact, in clinical studies in depressed patients, the rates of
orgasm > dysfunction in patients taking WELLBUTRIN SR were not significantly
> different from those of patients taking a placebo; ie, sugar pill (10-15%
> vs. 9-14%, respectively). In other clinical studies, few patients reported
> impotence or decreased libido while taking WELLBUTRIN SR (<1% and 0%,
> respectively).
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/dtc/faq.html#FAQ
>
> []]]>INFORMATION FOR YOUR PATIENTS TAKING WELLBUTRIN SR ( bupropion HCI )
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/hcp/mat/mat.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:20:06 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> To: <adhesions@obgyn.net>
> Subject: INTIMACY & DEPRESSION...
> Message-ID: <001601c0888d$c7ec6ae0$ab1593ce@olddad66>
>
> []]] Intimacy & Depression Medical Advisor: R. Taylor Segraves, MD, PhD
>
> 1.) What Is Depression?
>
> Everyone knows what it's like to feel sad, down, or "blue" from time to
> time. But when these feelings continue for more than just a few weeks, and
> are accompanied by certain other physical and mental symptoms, doctors
call > this depression. The symptoms that help a doctor to identify depression in
a > patient include:
>
> * constant feelings of sadness, irritability, or tension
>
> * a change in appetite, with a significant weight loss or weight gain
>
> * a change in sleeping patterns, such as insomnia, early morning
awakening, > or sleeping too much
>
> * restlessness, inability to make decisions or concentrate
>
> * loss of energy, feeling tired despite lack of activity
>
> * loss of interest or pleasure in usual activities or hobbies
>
> * decrease in sex drive
>
> * feelings of worthlessness, hopelessness, or guilt
>
> * thoughts of suicide or death
>
> 2.) Causes and Treatment.
>
> Some medical researchers believe depression is caused by an imbalance of
> certain chemicals in the brain. Antidepressant medications affect the
> chemical balance and relieve the symptoms of depression in many patients.
>
> Patients who are given an antidepressant by a physician should gradually
> begin to feel less depressed. Many notice signs of improvement as early as
2 > or 3 weeks after starting treatment, although for some people it may take
> longer. Appetite begins to return to normal. Sleep patterns improve.
> Interest and pleasure in hobbies and favorite pastimes gradually return.
If > the patient's interest in sex had decreased as a result of the depression,
> then as the depression is relieved, sexual function should return to
normal. >
> But just when antidepressant therapy seems to be making life better in
many > respects, some patients may experience common side effects. One of these
> side effects may include changes in sexual desire or performance. Patients
> may begin to feel little or no desire for sex; they may find it difficult
to > become sexually aroused; they may find sex unsatisfying and be unable to
> have an orgasm. What causes this?
>
> 3.) Some Antidepressants May Cause Sexual Problems.
>
> While depression itself can decrease the sex drive, other factors can also
> cause sexual problems in both men and women. These factors include
conflict > between sexual partners, stress, illnesses that cause ongoing pain or
> exhaustion, an imbalance in body chemistry, and medications such as some
> antidepressants.
>
> Fortunately, when patients experience sexual problems as a result of
> antidepressant therapy, physicians have a number of treatment choices. The
> physician may decide to see if the sexual problem resolves by itself after
> the patient is given enough time to adjust to the medication; perhaps the
> dosage can be adjusted; or sometimes additional medication may be
> appropriate. Another option is to change to a different antidepressant
> medication.
>
> 4.) Discussing Concerns About Sex With a Doctor.
>
> Sexual problems are not uncommon and can usually be solved. But first the
> patient needs to make the doctor aware of the problem. Before starting
> antidepressant therapy, the patient should inform the physician of any
> present or past difficulties with sexual function.
>
> The sexually active patient should inquire about side effects--including
> sexual problems--that are caused by some antidepressants. The patient
should > feel free to speak frankly, without embarrassment, to the physician. The
> patient already on antidepressant therapy should inform the doctor of any
> side effects, including any of the following sexual problems, that may
have > developed since therapy started.
>
> 5.) Some Signs of Antidepressant-Induced Sexual Dysfunction.
>
> * Loss of or reduced desire for sex
>
> * Inability or reduced ability to become sexually aroused or excited
>
> * Inability of the penis to become or stay firm or rigid
>
> * Release of semen earlier than usual during the sex act
>
> * Release of little or no semen during sexual climax
>
> * Continuous, painful erection of the penis
>
> * Inability to achieve orgasm or taking longer than usual to reach orgasm
>
> * Change in lubrication (wetness) during sexual activity
>
> * Pain during sexual activity
>
> If a patient begins to experience any of these problems, especially after
> taking an antidepressant, then it is possible that the problem is being
> caused by the medication.
>
> Remember, antidepressant therapy can help to relieve the symptoms of
> depression, including sexual problems, in a majority of patients. However,
> some antidepressants may actually cause sexual problems that disrupt
> therapy. Although it's a very personal subject, patients who experience
any > of the sexual difficulties discussed above should not hesitate to make the
> doctor aware of the problem. Once the doctor is informed, the patient can
> usually be helped. There are a number of treatments from which physicians
> can choose to relieve depression while minimizing the patient's risk of
> experiencing sexual problems.
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/hcp/mat/intimit.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:30:27 +0000
> ------------------------------
> From: acbcsrt@kansas.net
> To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> Subject: Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <200101271830.f0RIUQO27683@tuttle.kansas.net>
>
> I took amytriplyine (sp?) which sounds related to the nortriptyline.
These are > med that you have to come off SLOWLY to avoid "rebound"....that is...to
avoid > depression. Did you ask your doc about how to get off of this? My doc
said to > back down gradually. By doing this, you may find a level at which the
pain is > still controlled...but that you are not a zombie and that the sex drive at
> least exists. Going off suddenly sounds like a boo-boo to me. I am not a
> medical professional and so get the true scoop from your doc.
>
> > Hello to all - I've been daily reading and absorbing all info here, but
> > haven't posted much about my condition. My new (and very nice) gastro
> > that I first saw in November, definitely believes I have adhesions as a
> > result of my 3 c sections and recent abd. hyst.
> > She also wanted to rule out other issues, so we have gone through many
> > tests, which of course reveal nothing to explain my pain and discomfort
> > and worsening bowel problems.
> >
> > In late November, she started me on Nortriptyline, which seemed to help
> > after a few weeks, as I was having alot of trouble sleeping due to the
> > terrible pulling and stabbing pains along my rib cage. Since the end of
> > December, I seem to no longer get any relief from this rx, and it also
> > seems to be really affecting my sex drive, which isn't great these days
> > anyways. I just feel so numb, and can't seem to have any emotion or
> > feeling about it. My hubby asked me to stop taking it two days ago, as
> > he is getting frustrated by this. So, today I noticed that I have cried
> > almost all day, and I feel myself slipping into a dark depressive state
> > again. I do think the nortriptyline was helping me not be so depressed.
> >
> > What to do???? My condition worsens each month, and both my doctors
> > agree the next step is to talk with a surgeon who is very skilled in lap
> > procedures. We have a wonderful 7 day carribbean cruise planned, and we
> > leave in two weeks, and I can't even get excited about it - I'm so
> > worried that I'll have major bowel problems and pain . . . I'm really
> > having to watch what I eat anymore, and I never had to before!! I go
> > from terribly constipated, to having diahrea for a two day span, then
> > back again. The sounds from my intestines are all day long now - my
> > hubby says it sounds like a pinball arcade.
> >
> > Thanks for letting me vent today - my heart goes out to all of you who
> > are suffering.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jill
> >
>

href="http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm">http://www.adhesions.org /for > ums/listcmds.htm</a>

href="http://www.adhesions.org/forums/">http://www.adhesions.org/forums/</a> > >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:39:07 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: kaymoran@genevaonline.com (Kay in Wisconsin)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <200101271839.MAA24612@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> At Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jill wrote:
>
> Dear Jill
>
> Nortriptyline is an tri-cyclic anti-depressant very useful as a pain
> medication. One of the side effects is that it will put you to sleep.
> Another side effect is reduction of sex drive. You would probably need
> bigger doses for the pain & the sleep, I know I've been down that road.
> It's not a solution.
>
> When you have pain, you use up certain neurotransmitters, the absense of
> which causes depression. Your lack of emotion & that feeling of
> flatness is clinical depression caused by the lack of serotonin, a
> neurotransmitter. The nortriptyline helps preserve serotonin.
>
> I don't know what your medical coverage is like, but it sounds to me
> like you need a pain specialist and/or a psychiatrist (who knows
> medications that will help with your pain & your sleep.
>
> Can you postpone that cruise? If not maybe the pain doctor and the
> shrink can get your medications adjusted in time.
>
> Sincerely
> Kay
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:49:30 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: rmasse2333@aol.com (Robin)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Elke's 2nd look lap
> Message-ID: <200101271849.MAA27919@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Our friend Elke, in Germany will be having her 2nd look lap with Dr
> Korell on Monday. Please keep her in your thoughts. She did have a
> reaction to the gel after her last surgery.
> Elke, I am thinking of you & praying all will go well with your 2nd
> surgery.
> love
> Robin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:12:14 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> To: <olddad66@runestone.net>, <adhesions@obgyn.net>
> Subject: DEPRESSION...Information for patients taking Wellbutrin SR
> Message-ID: <000501c08895$1181d580$ab1593ce@olddad66>
>
> One in 20 Americans will suffer this year with a serious, but treatable
> illness. The illness is depression ( throughout this site, "depression"
> refers to the DSM-IV diagnosis of Major Depressive Disorder ).
Unfortunately > it is often missed or misdiagnosed -- especially in children and the
> elderly -- but once correctly diagnosed, the vast majority of patients
> respond well to treatment. Women are diagnosed with this illness nearly
> twice as often as men, but it can affect anyone, at any age, of any race,
> socioeconomic class, or ethnic background.
>
> We're here to provide information about depression and how to treat it, as
> well as to provide resources that you and your patients can use to help
plan > and effect recovery.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 1.) There's Hope for Depression
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/dtc/home.html
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 2.) Frequently Asked Questions
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/dtc/faq.html#FAQ
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 3.) Important Safety Information
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/dtc/faq.html
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 4.) Feeling Good Again After Depression
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/hcp/mat/feel.htm
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 5.) Intimacy & Depression
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/hcp/mat/intimit.htm
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> 6.) Understanding depression and your treatment with Wellbutrin SRŪ
> bupropion HCl )
> Sustained-Released Tablets 100 mg/150 mg
>
> http://www.wellbutrin-sr.com/hcp/mat/under.htm
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:24:08 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Teresa Waldrop" <twaldro3@bellsouth.net>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Drs. R&R
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> Hello everyone. I am thinking of seeing the doctors in PA and am wanting > some more information on them. I have been talking to Pam and she has > given me a lot of useful information about them. I don't know what I > would do without her or this group.She suggested that I put a message > out about what I am wanting. If they have done surgery for you, please > let me know. I'm wanting to know how many others they have helped and if > you have had long lasting results. Going to PA for surgery is a big > decision, not to mention the expense since my insurance will not pay if > I go to someone that isn't in my area.(West Tennessee) So if you don't > mind, please Email me if they have or haven't helped you. I would like > to find a doctor that can help me stay out of surgery every 4 - 6 > months. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to this.
> Big Hugs,
> Teresa
> P.S. My story is on the quilt if you'd like more information on me. And > I will be glad to answer any questions you may have.
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello everyone. I am thinking of seeing > the doctors
> in PA and am wanting some more information on them. I have been talking > to Pam
> and she has given me a lot of useful information&nbsp;about them. I > don't know
> what I would do without her&nbsp;or this group.She suggested that I put > a
> message out about what I am wanting. If they have done surgery for you, > please
> let me know. I'm wanting to know how many others they have helped and if > you
> have had long lasting results. Going to PA for surgery is a big > decision, not to
> mention the expense since my insurance will not pay if I go to someone > that
> isn't in my area.(West Tennessee) So if you don't mind, please Email me > if they
> have or haven't helped you. I would like to find a doctor that can help > me stay
> out of surgery every 4 - 6 months. Thank you for taking the time to read > and
> respond to this. </FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. My story is on the quilt if you'd > like more
> information on me. And I will be glad to answer any questions you may
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> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:37:15 -0600
> ------------------------------
> From: "Teresa Waldrop" <twaldro3@bellsouth.net>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Can you help?
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> Dear Drs. R & R and/or Gerhart,
> My story is on the quilt and I am thinking of seeing your group. I > was wanting to know if you have any research on the effects of surgery > on your patients. How many have benefited and what percentage has good > long term effects? The doctor I have now is having to do surgery on me > every 4 - 6 months due to pain and other complications caused by > adhesions. I would love to know if you think you may be able to help me. > I am going back to see Dr. Martin, my doctor, next month to talk to him > about all that I have found out in finding this group. I really trust > his opinion and know that he will encourage me to see your group if he > thinks I would benefit from it. Dr. Martin is a loving and caring doctor > who specializes in endometriosis and infertility, not in adhesions. > Since my case I know that he had been doing a lot of studying trying to > find things that may help me. If you know of anything that I need to > tell him about your group, please let me know. Thank you for your > attention in this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
> Teresa Waldrop
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Drs. R &amp; R and/or > Gerhart,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My story is on the > quilt and I
> am thinking of seeing your group. I was wanting to know if you have any > research
> on the effects of surgery on your patients. How many have benefited and > what
> percentage has good long term effects? The doctor I have now is having > to do
> surgery on me every 4 - 6 months due to pain and other complications > caused by
> adhesions. I would love to&nbsp;know if you think you may be able to > help
> me.&nbsp;I am going back to see Dr. Martin, my doctor, next month to > talk to him
> about all that I have found out in finding this group. I really trust > his
> opinion and know that he will encourage me to see your group if he > thinks I
> would benefit from it. Dr. Martin is a loving and caring doctor who > specializes
> in endometriosis and infertility, not in adhesions. Since my case I know > that he
> had been doing a lot of studying trying to find things that may help me. > If you
> know of anything that I need to tell him about your group, please let me > know.
> Thank you for your attention in this matter.</FONT></DIV>
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> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; > Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
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> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:11:25 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (Dr. Gerhart)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Can you help?
> Message-ID: <200101272011.OAA23706@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Dear Teresa,
> Reports in the literature vary, but generally suggest that 1/3 of all
> patients will have near total relief, 1/3 will have better than 50%
> relief, and 1/3 will have little or no relief. We are fortunate to have
> very good success, probably because we are very selective, and try to
> identify patients who will be in the 2/3 that have significant
> improvement. Patients who we feel will likely benefit from adhesion
> surgery, after we have reviewed their history, generally will find
> significant relief. Everyone is different, however, and it requires one
> of us looking at your history. You can get more information by looking
> at the website at http://www.generalsurgeryinfo.com and looking under the
> heading Adhesion Related Disorder. If you have not spoken to one of our
> surgeons yet, you can email me directly through that site and I will
> send you a history form to fill out and fax back. Then we can give you
> a better idea if it is worth pursuing fully.
> Best wishes,
> Dr. Gerhart
>
> At Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Teresa Waldrop wrote:
> >
> >Dear Drs. R & R and/or Gerhart,
> > My story is on the quilt and I am thinking of seeing your group. I
was wanting to know if you have any research on the effects of surgery on your patients. How many have benefited and what percentage has good long term effects? The doctor I have now is having to do surgery on me every 4 - 6 months due to pain and other complications caused by adhesions. I would love to know if you think you may be able to help me. I am going back to see Dr. Martin, my doctor, next month to talk to him about all that I have found out in finding this group. I really trust his opinion and know that he will encourage me to see your group if he thinks I would benefit from it. Dr. Martin is a loving and caring doctor who specializes in endometriosis and infertility, not in adhesions. Since my case I know that he had been doing a lot of studying trying to find things that may help me. If you know of anything that I need to tell him about your group, please let me know. Thank you for your attenti! > on in thi
> >s matter.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Teresa Waldrop
>
> --
> Dr. Gerhart
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:17:51 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: jillhumb@crosswinds.net (Jill)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: rx no longer working - need to just vent a bit . . .
> Message-ID: <200101272117.PAA19306@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Thanks to all of you who so kindly replied with information for me. Kay
> - sounds like you are right - I did try to see a psychiatrist at the end
> of the year, but my ins. plan did not cover that particular one, so we
> are looking for another, as my personal physician recommends it
> strongly.
>
> I have not tried St. johns wort, as I've been told it could affect my
> high blood pressure situation.
>
> It helps so much to know there are others out there that understand what
> I'm going through . . .
>
> I know going "cold turkey" off the meds is not good either - it's just
> sooo frustrating to see hubby so frustrated in the bedroom, just don't
> know what else to do sometimes! My regular doc is out for 2 weeks
> himself, went to see his "associate" the other day, who wasn't much
> help. I will probably wait for him to get back, and try and get another
> referral. Grrr!!!
>
> God bless you all-
>
> Jill
>
> At Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Kay in Wisconsin wrote:
> >
> >At Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jill wrote:
> >
> >Dear Jill
> >
> >Nortriptyline is an tri-cyclic anti-depressant very useful as a pain
> >medication. One of the side effects is that it will put you to sleep.
> >Another side effect is reduction of sex drive. You would probably need
> >bigger doses for the pain & the sleep, I know I've been down that road.
> >It's not a solution.
> >
> >When you have pain, you use up certain neurotransmitters, the absense of
> >which causes depression. Your lack of emotion & that feeling of
> >flatness is clinical depression caused by the lack of serotonin, a
> >neurotransmitter. The nortriptyline helps preserve serotonin.
> >
> >I don't know what your medical coverage is like, but it sounds to me
> >like you need a pain specialist and/or a psychiatrist (who knows
> >medications that will help with your pain & your sleep.
> >
> >Can you postpone that cruise? If not maybe the pain doctor and the
> >shrink can get your medications adjusted in time.
> >
> >Sincerely
> >Kay
>
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>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:27:16 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: STIVBOY525@.COM (NORMA)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: It's been a long time.....Someone from Schenectady!
> Message-ID: <200101272127.PAA23585@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> At Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Kb1707tiamet@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >Hi Denise! I attended what was Mont Pleasant High in Schenectady. We
would > >have been "rivals" at school! It makes me laugh to think about it. I
> >graduatged 20 years ago. How about you?
> >
> >Hi to everyone else! Tara, Toni, Helen, Beverly, Karla N. I've missed
you > >all as I spent a week in the hospital (not adhesion related). No
computer > >access, no supportline...it was killing me! But now that I'm back, I'm
realy > >sorry to hear re Karla N.'s latest setback. Let God handle it. Put it
right > >in the SFJTD (something for Jesus to do) box.
> >
> >Gotta go, my kitties need me!
> >
> >Blessed Be. Karla B.
> HI MY SON SUFFERS FROM ADHESIONS ANYONE THERE TO TALK TO
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:46:06 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: jenklow@hotmail.com (Jenny)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Study Group
> Message-ID: <200101272246.QAA27276@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Hi Dr. Gerhart,
>
> Thank you so much for responding again. What we are meaning by a study
> group is patients who are willing to try new treatments as part of a
> medical study. There may be cases where all has been tried and nothing
> that is available has worked now. My doc rubbed some sort of oil or gel
> all over my insides last surgery(June). I am going to ask him what he
> used. It hasn't really worked for me since I am in pain again. So I am
> going to ask him what he used when I go in on Tuesday. Maybe we can try
> one of the other barriers. If those don't work, I need to know there
> are other options out there. And I am sure there are others who are
> interested too.
>
> Thanks so much for answering me. It really shows that you are a
> compassionate person when you take the time to talk to patients who are
> not paying for your time. It is horrible when doctors lose their
> compassion. And it is horrible to go to a doctor and have them rush
> through your visit. It makes you feel brushed aside. You are obviously
> not a doctor who does that. I can tell that your practice will prosper
> because of that. I know doctors get busy. We all do. But if we are
> paying for their time, they need to at least listen. You, my dear
> doctor, are a true blessing. I hope you stick around on this message
> board! We love you!
>
> Have a great day! Lots of love and Bear hugs to you,
> Jenny
>
> At Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Dr. Gerhart wrote:
> >
> >Jenny,
> >I'm not sure what you mean by a study group. You can look through the
> >links on this page and on my web page http://www.generalsurgeryinfo.com
for > >additional organizations that may themselves link to groups such as you
> >are looking for. If you let me know exactly what you are interested in
> >maybe I can help. Unfortunately there is not a lot out there, and you
> >have probably already found the best adhesion resources here.
> >Dr. Gerhart
> >
> >At Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jenny wrote:
> >>
> >>Dr. Gerhart,
> >>
> >>My husband and I were wondering, are there any study groups for people
> >>with adhesions? If there are, can you put me in touch with them? Thanks
> >>for your time, help, and support.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jenny
> >>
> >>>Jenny,
> >>>Hampton is not far. About 1 hr. 15 min. It's just across rt 78 into
> >>>PA and straight up the turnpike.
> >>>Best of luck with your Dr's appointmet.
> >>>Dr. Gerhart
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Dr. Gerhart
> >>>
> >--
> >Dr. Gerhart
> >
>
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