Re: Question

From: Karla (ifirgit@new.rr.com)
Wed Dec 5 15:43:13 2001


Lin,

No, you aren't blowing this out of proportion. You deserve to live a life as free of pain as you can possibly be. You have the right to demand a doctor who isn't afraid of treating you with the medications you need to live as normal a life as can be. Write to Dr. Robertson. Be honest with him. Tell him what your pain specialist has been told and tell him how you are feeling now since you began taking the morphine. Ask him if you need to continue on with the ps or can you continue to go through him for your medications. Ask him if you need to even have a ps. If he says no, next time you are in the hospital tell them that Dr. whoever is no longer your doctor.

Love, Karla

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>----- Original Message -----
From: "Lin" <j.vermey@xtra.co.nz> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question

> At Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Karla wrote:
> >
> >Lin,
> >
> >Do you have to have a pain specialist? Around here you don't, but they
are > >the ones more likely to prescribe the narcotics than regular doctors. I
> >don't really see any pain specialists...not any more. I have one down in
> >Chicago, but it is not easy to fly down there all the time for treatment
and > >since my doctor is handling things pretty well I will leave it that way.
I > >did go through their wanting to do the spinal blocks which were no help
at > >all other than increasing the pain. If your surgeon wants to prescribe
the > >narcotics that is his choice. The way it works around here, the pain
> >management doctor would not overrule him. He knows your problems and
your > >pain much more than the PS because he deals with you all the time.
> >
> >--
> >Karla
> >
> >Somewhere up in the stars..............
> >My angel and me!
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001
> >http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven
> >

>> >>----- Original Message -----
> >From: "J&L VERMEY" <J.VERMEY@xtra.co.nz>
> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
> ><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:27 AM
> >Subject: Re: Question
> >
> >> Hey Lisa,
> >>
> >> I attend Pain Clinic here in New Zealand. I see two different people,
one > >is
> >> the Pain Specialist, the other is the Pain Team's Psychologist.
> >>
> >> The P.S. basically is in charge of all my medications related to my
> >chronic
> >> pain - but since some specialists can be narrow minded in regards to
> >> narcotics - and my P.S. is definitely that - and does not want me to
> >> continue taking any - I am now by-passing him and my house doctor is
> >> handling my pain management. There are about half a dozen pain
specialists > >> at my hospital - I may have to change to one who is more sympathetic to
my > >> needs eventually - but for now I'm going to leave it the way it is. I
talk > >> to my P.S. once every month over the phone - as he gives me a month's
> >> prescription for methadone - which we're reducing slowly - but I'm no
> >longer
> >> mentioning to him that I am taking morphine as prescribed my my GP - as
it > >> only makes things more difficult.
> >>
> >> My Pain Psychologist helps me cope with the pain 'mentally' - she's
been > >> teaching me breathing and relaxation exercises, and she lets me talk to
> >her
> >> about anything that bothers me, and she helps me see a different
> >perspective
> >> of things. The good thing is my husband sometimes comes with me, and
she > >> helps him cope too, and sometimes he even goes by himself. If I need
> >advice
> >> I call her on the phone, and most of the time that is helpful. The only
> >> thing that bothers me is that she blabs everything I say to my P.S.
> >>
> >> I know this doesn't sound very encouraging. I'm sorry about that.
> >Sometimes
> >> you just come across people who are prejudiced and narrow minded, and
who > >> are simply too busy to listen.
> >>
> >> I hope your experience will be a positive one!
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> Lin.
> >>

>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Lisa <lilylover5555@aol.com>
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> ><adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 16:27
> >> Subject: Question
> >>
> >> > I have a first appointment at a pain management clinic next week and
I > >> > was wondering if anyone could give me a clue as to what to expect, or
> >> > any advise would really be appreciated!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Lisa
> >> >
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> Thank you Karla,
>
> I agree! Why do I have to have a Pain Specialist? I was talking to John
about > the same thing last night, and I said to him too - can't I simply say next
time > I am admitted that I don't need my P.S.? That Dr Robertson and I are
handling > the situation just fine and that I am perfectly happy with how my pain
> management is going?
> It's just that everytime in the past when I've gone into hospital I've run
> into the same situation - the doctors and nurses act like my P.S. word is
> LAW! And they won't prescribe anything for my pain - but leave it to him
> instead.
> I don't want to cause a problem, I really don't want to upset my P.S. by
> demanding that I want another P.S. - he's basically a nice guy - and in a
> way he does care about me, it's just that on this matter we don't see eye
to > eye.
> I've been wandering about writing to Dr Robertson and expressing my
concerns and > to aks him what to do? What do you think?
> Or am I making a too big a deal out of this?
> The other thing I blurted out to John last night was that I wished I could
> simply stop taking the methadone - I'm down to 7 mg's - and at the rate I
am > going - dropping it 1 mg a month - it's going to take me another 7
months - it > seems like forever.
> I know that if I stop taking it that i will feel absolutely terrible -
I'll > have weeks of withdrawl to deal with and I will be impossible to live
with. > I've done it a couple of times before and believe me - I'm intolerable to
be > around when I'm withdrawing! I can't sit still, can't think straight,
can't > sleep.
> And then, I may be pregnant - and I don't want to risk anything going
wrong. > It's just that in 14 days I have to ring my P.S. up for another
prescription - > and the first thing he's going to ask me is what medications I am taking.
> Karla, I don't want to lie to him - I don't like being dishonest - but
last > month when I said that I was taking morphine it got me into hot water -
and > that's when he basically put his foot down and said he wouldn't prescribe
it > as he wanted me off all the narcotics. John suggested that I simply say to
him > "the same as last month" and hope that he wont catch on, I know
technically it's > not lying - but I'd still feel bad about it.
> I wish I could change to another P.S. who was more sympathetic to my
needs, > someone who isn't too busy to listen to me - but all the other P.S.'s are
no > better!
> I don't know what to do, I really don't.
>
> Hugs
>
> Lin
>


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