Re: First page of : Adhesion pain & elevated WBC

From: Em (ewaa@earthlink.net)
Fri Feb 15 00:25:46 2002


At Thu, 14 Feb 2002, kim wrote: >
>At Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Bev wrote:
>>
>>In my study's of adhesion disorder and adhesionalysis with reformed
>>adhesions, that 99% of adhesions will reform following surgery. Not all
>>adhesions are problamatic, do not cause pain. It is in MY opinion,
>>based on my own experience's of living with adhesion disorder and the
>>study of numorous adhesionalysis operative reports,including my own,
>>that the organs that are ment to be free floating, (like intestines,)
>>and those organs that are very sensative, ( ovarys, similar to the male
>>testes ) when adhered to a stationary part in the abdominal cavity like
>>the peritoneum ( inner abdominal wall )are the cause of the adhesional
>>pain. When you understand that the movement of the intestines when a
>>person elects to sit in a straight chair, for example, the intestines
>>are ment to move upwards and to the back so that they are not bunched in
>>the lower abdominal cavity as you are sitting. When the intestines are
>>attatched to a stationary part of the cavity, they do not move, thus
>>causing a pulling on the adhesion attatchment sites on the organs. This
>>pulling causes aggitation at those sites, thus creating inflamation at
>>the sites as well. The body reacts to inflamation with pain signals,
>>thus our pain! Inflamation also cause the white blood cells to be
>>elevated, that is a normal response to inflamation by the body. I
>>beleive that if every adhesion disorder patients presented to their Dr.
>>for a WBC count, it would be elevated...that is also why it is

Bev, This was my experience as well. I went to three of my physisicans who had all had their hands in me literally I might add, and told them for two months solid that my pain is in my ovary. I got that look, need I say more. Anyway when I had last adhesiolysis done guess what my right ovary was bilaterially wrapped in? Yes, adhesions! And...that was attached to my small intestine. Plus...ovarian cysts had bled into my fallopian tubes, which were tied, so they resembled sausages, and had two cysts removed from ovary. I remember telling ER people over and over again the pain is in/or on my ovaries. I have copies of doctors visits, everything else in in the damn reports, but do you think the pain I mentioned is in the thing? Heck no. My other adhesiolysis , or should I say my first was when my appendix was attached to my bladder and vaginal wall across my abdomen due to "extensive" adhesions. I see your point about inflammatory meds, but I do not get much relief with them, but then again I have only tried a few. em >>importanat to be on anti inflamitory medciations ( or something ) that
>>will help decrease that inflamation and hopefull reduce the pain some.
>>Because we are constantly moving, we are constantly causing that
>>aggitation, thus chronic pain from adhesions that are attatched. In my
>>adhesionalysis of April 22, 1999 there was ONE attatchment site where
>>the right outterside of my lower sigmoid colon was was turned completely
>>over upside down acrossed my cavity and attatched to LEFT side of my
>>lower peritoneum. One stationary attatchment. There were also dense
>>adhesions throughout all of my intestines, in, around, under and had
>>attatched them folded against one another...there were not even
>>distinguishable as intestines, instead it appeared as ONE mass covered
>>in adhesions. Yet, my only pain was in the area of that stationary
>>attatchment site! In my two prevouse adhesional lysis operative reports,
>>I also had ONE stationary attatchment site each time...that was
>>representative of where I experineced my pain! It had been five years
>>since my last adhesional lysis and the April 99 one, and I experinced
>>such severe pain that I was rendered all but totally disabled. Could
>>NOT sit in a chair or vehicle, could NOT turn side to side as I woke
>>with pain even after taking high doses of pian sleep meds, my pain was
>>constant..and my WBC was elevated, I was on 15 - 20 pills a day....and
>>never for one minute of one day did I NOT have pain! I had ONE
>>adhesional atatchment that caused all that pain..ONE! That was my
>>experience, but in the studies of others adhesionalysis operative
>>reports, and a discription of their pain areas, it was always in the
>>area of a stationary attatchment site. One can draw their own
>>conclusions, one can study thier own op. reports, and one can also have
>>a WBC drawn, but this has not only been my experince, it is based on a
>>number of study's of operative reports...and no one else has come up
>>with anything better yet as for the pain! But it is known that not all
>>adhesions cause pain...thank-GOD she has been spared, Pete! Look at the
>>study's that have been done through Interceed as to adhesion pain and
>>the % of adhesions found in surgery's.....95% of all abdominal/pelivic
>>surgery's result in adhesion formation, yet not everyone of those
>>experinced any pain. My son works in a pathology dept, he performs
>>autopsy's all the time and states that he is continuously seeing
>>adhesions in the abdominla/pelivic cavity, on the heart around the
>>lungs..all the time! ...
>
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>Hi ! I KNOW WHAT ADHESION PAIN IS ALL ABOUT,I WAS TO A NEW DOCTOR AND HE REALLY UPSET ME BY PUTTING ME THROUGH A HORRIBLE PELVIC EXAM AND THEN TOK ME INTO HIS OFFICE AND TOLD ME THAT HE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR ME.I HAVE HAD 28 SURGERIES .MY PAIN IS SO SEVERE THAT I CAN'T SLEEP ,I CAN'T MOVE AROUND WITHOUT THE DEVIL PAIN AS I CALL IT.PLEASE HELP ME ,GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ON WHAT TO DO NEXT.MY BOWELS DOESN'T MOVE ,MY STOMACH IS ALL SWOLLEN.WHERE DO I TURN TO AND WHAT SHOULD I DO.
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