Re: ADHESIONS digest 1893

From: Marley and Karen Carter (carter123@comcast.net)
Tue Apr 9 06:44:31 2002


Hi all;

Sorry for the long winded story on the board, it was meant for the quilt, and I pressed submit before I put in my password. I will copy and paste in the quilt..hope I didn't confuse too many of you this morning.

Karen C.

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From: "Adhesions Society" <adhesions@adhesions.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:04 AM Subject: ADHESIONS digest 1893

> ADHESIONS Digest 1893
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: Surgery Thursday
> by joanne@bombobeach.com (Jo Eslick)
> 2) Re: Jo
> by joanne@bombobeach.com (Jo Eslick)
> 3) Clare, and answers to questions
> by Marley and Karen Carter <carter123@comcast.net>
> 4) Re: choosing pain meds over surgery
> by nancebln@earthlink.net (Brenda)
> 5) Possible bowel obstruction puts man in hospital, but he solved his
own problem!! > by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> 6) I'm new here!
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> 7) Re: I'm new here!
> by RNURSERAS@aol.com
> 8) Re: Sally honey bunny re: Germany
> by "Sally Grigg" <lostcst@mcn.org>
> 9) Re: Lesa
> by "Sally Grigg" <lostcst@mcn.org>
> 10) Music heals the soul --listen
> by Joppashell@aol.com
>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: joanne@bombobeach.com (Jo Eslick)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Surgery Thursday
> Message-ID: <200204081604.g38G4Af10821@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Clare my special friend......
>
> I miss our chats and I am trying to be a big brave girl..... but my
> knees are knocking just a tinsy bit ;-)
>
> Shane has promised to keep everyone up to date ok?
>
> --
> Love and gentle hugs,
> Joanne Eslick
> Founder Australian Adhesions Support Group
> http://www.bombobeach.com
> Australian Co-ordinator of
> International Adhesions Society
> http://www.adhesions.org
>
> --
> I am not a medical person, and all my messages are based
> on personal experience. I am a fellow adhesions sufferer
> reaching out to help others.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:09:06 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: joanne@bombobeach.com (Jo Eslick)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Jo
> Message-ID: <200204081609.g38G96P14831@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Oh Cheryl you special lamb!
>
> :-) I am trully overwhelmed with all the emails, cards and messages I
> have received...... and yes, Shane will be right here beside me and
> will of-course keep you all up to date!
>
> Thank you again my special friend.... it is helping me to be not quite
> so nervous knowing all those positive thought waves are comeing my way
> ;-)
>
> --
> Love and gentle hugs,
> Joanne Eslick
> Founder Australian Adhesions Support Group
> http://www.bombobeach.com
> Australian Co-ordinator of
> International Adhesions Society
> http://www.adhesions.org
>
> --
> I am not a medical person, and all my messages are based
> on personal experience. I am a fellow adhesions sufferer
> reaching out to help others.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:27:30 -0400
> ------------------------------
> From: Marley and Karen Carter <carter123@comcast.net>
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Clare, and answers to questions
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> Clare,
> Hi, I first had adhesions after a partial vaginal hysterectomy,
laparoscopically assisted by a gyn. that I had only starting going to. He had told me I had had a prolapsed uterus and adenomyosis. I thought the surgery went well, but only a few short weeks later I started to experience pain and gastrointestinal problems that I had not endured before. I went to my PCP, a Gastro, test upon test, and nothing was found. I didn't return to the GYN for any follow-up as I found is demeanor deplorable. >
> That was April of 1999 that I had that surgery. This dragged on for
months, never finding any answers. I found a new GYN March of 2000, they told me I might have adhesions, I had never heard of that before. The pain lingered on and so did nausea and vomitting, weight loss, etc. The new doc scheduled me for a total hysterectomy mid July, but the first few days of July I became very ill, and could no longer eat. I was admitted emergently and had surgery the following day. He removed both ovaries, tubes and did my first adhesiolysis. He only did the adhesions in the pelvic cavity because he is a gynecologist, not a general surgeon. >
> I was well until October of that year, when the pain and the symptoms
returned, full blown. I searched for a general surgeon, was refered to a pain doc, and I hated HER !! No one beleived me or thought I had anything to operate on. Upon doing research I found this board and the surgeons in PA. Dr. Redan, and Dr. Gerhart put me through the test of questions and calling me and were ever so gracious. >
> March of last year I finally had my adhesiolysis, as well as an
appendectomy and removal of my gall bladder (surrounded by massive adhesions) hmmmmm, wonder why I always was in pain. >
> The doctors did a great job, so I had adhesions in my lower pelvic cavity
as well as my upper abdominal cavity. Honestly I don't know how long after the surgery I started to feel better, because other things were going on with me. I didn't do much activity, as the surgery was a little more extensive then first thought.Dr. Gerhart and Dr. Redan were my surgeons and I would certainly recommend them or even have surgery by them in the future if it were warranted. Kind and compassionate men, that's what I can truly say. >
> As far as a barrier, I don't recall them using one. I do remember them
telling me they do something to keep from bleeding, as not to have the adhesions form. I know this surgery isn't the answer for all, as we all are different. And we all heal differently. I just would like the board to know that I am a success, it took me a very long time to realize that ... as far as the success rate is I was never told the statistics. >
> It took me a full six months to realize I was not in pain anymore and that
I was doing very well physically. There were other reasons surrounding my well-being, as to why it took me 6 months to realize this. >
> I pray for you and whatever your decision is, regarding surgery is yours
alone. Please feel free to email me personally if you wish, I am not here to dictate to anyone what to do, I just want those of you that are still suffering with ARD, either before or after adhesiolysis that I had two adhesiolysis', one here in VA, and one with the doctors in PA, and that's what it took for ME. >
> Keep the faith, and I am here for you...and all that suffer. I will keep
you in my prayers. >
> Karen
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clare, </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, I first had adhesions after a partial
vaginal > hysterectomy, laparoscopically assisted by a gyn. that I had only starting
going > to. He had told me I had had a prolapsed uterus and adenomyosis. I thought
the > surgery went well, but only a few short weeks later I started to
experience pain > and gastrointestinal problems that I had not endured before. I went to my
PCP, a > Gastro, test upon test, and nothing was found. I didn't return to the GYN
for > any follow-up as I found is demeanor deplorable.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That was April of 1999 that I had that
surgery. > This dragged on for months, never finding any answers. I found a new GYN
March > of 2000, they told me I might have adhesions, I had never heard of that
before. > The pain lingered on and so did nausea and vomitting, weight loss, etc.
The new > doc scheduled me for a total hysterectomy mid July, but the first few days
of > July I became very ill, and could no longer eat. I was admitted emergently
and > had surgery the following day. He removed both ovaries, tubes and did my
first > adhesiolysis. He only did the adhesions in the pelvic cavity because he is
a > gynecologist, not a general surgeon.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was well until October of that year, when
the > pain and the symptoms returned, full blown. I searched for a general
surgeon, > was refered to a pain doc, and I hated HER !! No one beleived me or
thought I > had anything to operate on. Upon doing research I found this board and the
> surgeons in PA. Dr. Redan, and Dr. Gerhart put me through the test of
questions > and calling me and were ever so gracious.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>March of last year I finally had my
adhesiolysis, > as well as an appendectomy and removal of my gall bladder (surrounded by
massive > adhesions) hmmmmm, wonder why I always was in pain.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The doctors did a great job,&nbsp; so I had
> adhesions in my lower pelvic cavity as well as my upper abdominal cavity.
> Honestly I don't know how long after the surgery I started to feel better,
> because other things were going on with me. I didn't do much activity, as
the > surgery was a little more extensive then first thought.Dr. Gerhart and Dr.
Redan > were my surgeons and I would certainly recommend them or even have surgery
by > them in the future if it were warranted. Kind and compassionate men,
that's what > I can truly say.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As far as a barrier, I don't recall them
using one. > I do remember them telling me they do something to keep from bleeding, as
not to > have the adhesions form. I know this surgery isn't the answer for all, as
we all > are different. And we all heal differently. I just would like the board to
know > that I am a success, it took me a very long time to realize that ... as
far as > the success rate is I was never told the statistics.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It took me a full six months to realize I was
not > in pain anymore and that I was doing very well physically. There were
other > reasons surrounding my well-being, as to why it took me 6 months to
realize > this.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I pray for you and whatever your decision is,
> regarding surgery is yours alone. Please feel free to email me personally
if you > wish, I am not here to dictate to anyone what to do, I just want those of
you > that are still suffering with ARD, either before or after adhesiolysis
that I > had two adhesiolysis', one here in VA, and one with the doctors in PA, and
> that's what it took for ME.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep the faith, and I am here for you...and
all > that suffer. I will keep you in my prayers.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Karen</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:06:37 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: nancebln@earthlink.net (Brenda)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: choosing pain meds over surgery
> Message-ID: <200204081906.g38J6bU01897@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> At Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Jo Eslick wrote:
> >
> >Hi Em,
> >
> >Thanks for your great message, and I couldn't agree with you more... I
> >really believe that at this time the best option is our own diversional
> >therapies (anything that is relaxing or help takes our mind off pain, or
> >reduces it's affect on how we function through a normal day) with a
> >combination of pain medication. I have been doing that for almost
> >twelve months!
> >
> >However :-( when my ovaries were removed last April.... one tiny little
> >piece was left behind & I can't believe the havoc & pain this little
> >spec of almost nothing has caused!
> >
> >I had been gradually getting worse (pain wise) over a period of months
> >and was put on higher doses of pain meds and then switched to the slow
> >release version of the same drug. I was in heaven! I was able to get
> >back into activities with my girls (I have four), I was actually
> >participating in the running of our own business and I did a few... just
> >a few household chores...
> >
> >BUT enter the nasty ovary remnant... who made my body believe that my
> >ovaries had simply switched off...not been removed, so my body started
> >to produce all sorts of other chemicals and hormones to try and
> >stimulate my hormones back to life.... mmmm well since they ain't
> >there.... that wasn't what was happening! I was getting some pretty
> >impressive sized cysts which would kinda just make my pain a little more
> >than I could handle...and I can be pretty determined...
> >
> >4 weeks ago I visited my specialist for an outpatients visit because i
> >was starting to feel as though something wasn't right, and that my pain
> >was increasing & my new wonder drug and pain management routine was
> >taking a nosedive. So we upped the meds, changed a few things around,
> >had an internal (aren't they one of our favourite things? NOT!) I also
> >had a vaginal ultrasound to confirm yep, you guessed it another cyst!
> >*sigh* this one however was playing a new game called push into the back
> >wall of my bladder and make the stubborn beast work less than it already
> >does! So, self-catheterisation became a more frequent event in my
> >day-to-day life.
> >
> >I had another exam with the physio, because I wanted to check if the
> >exercises I was doing were working... yep, another internal, so all of
> >that coupled with a three and a half hour bumpy car ride to Sydney from
> >Bathurst left me feeling pretty yuk.... so I decided that collapsing in
> >the foyer as we were leaving was a great way to protest about my pain...
> >so here I am four weeks later after trying all sorts of things like
> >rest, extra pain meds, all sorts of really exciting tests (none of them
> >suitable for description here....for further details send a personal
> >email ;-))
> >
> >So, I have come to the end of my choices and surgery on Thursday
> >afternoon to remove the ovarian remnant, oh and just to make things a
> >little more interesting, the remnant is in my cul-de-sac where yup you
> >guessed it my worst adhesions live there in fact, my last gynaecologist
> >said my cul-de-sac just doesn't exist anymore it's just adhesions.
> >
> >So fingers & toes crossed and so many people sending positive thoughts
> >and prayers my way, hopefully this surgery will be the end to this part
> >of my saga, and I can go back to pain management...mmm ... all though
> >PAIN FREE would be nice... nahhhh better not get my hopes up too high!
> >
> >--
> >Love and gentle hugs,
> >Joanne Eslick
> >Founder Australian Adhesions Support Group
> >http://www.bombobeach.com
> >Australian Co-ordinator of
> >International Adhesions Society
> >http://www.adhesions.org
> >
> >--
> >I am not a medical person, and all my messages are based
> >on personal experience. I am a fellow adhesions sufferer
> >reaching out to help others.
> >
>
> --
> Hi Your story sounds just like mine same problem I to am going in for
sugery Thursday. When they did my surgery in Sept they left a small piece of ovary tissue and it has formed a rather large cyst that has caused horrible pain oyxcontin and demerol taken together are not helping the pain so they decided it was time to go back in. They say that because of all the adhesions they will have to open me up and go very slow to make sure they get it all out this time. I to wish this would end all the pain and the taking pain medication. Well I will keep you in my prayers, good luck. >
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:14:53 -0500
> ------------------------------
> From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
> To: <joanne@bombobeach.com>, <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Possible bowel obstruction puts man in hospital, but he solved
his own problem!! > Message-ID: <001601c1df3a$0d2f85c0$7718ddcc@olddad66>
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> Possible bowel obstruction puts man in hospital; but he solved his own > problem!!
> I received a letter from a young man, who had the misfortune of having > to spend Easter 2001 in the hospital because of a possible bowel > obstruction. Perhaps someone else can benefit as a result of his > experience.
>
> He said: "It seems that my assertiveness coupled with my surgeons > willingness to let me try solving the bowel obstruction by drinking alot > of water --and not eating -- has paid off. I'm passing gas now, have no > pain, have eaten some food today without ill effect and am being > discharged.
> "Being very health conscious may have precipitated (caused ) my bowel > obstruction and hospital stay. I'm a web developer and use "a specific > restaurant" as my office away from home. I may spend 6 - 8 hours a day > there with my laptop. Not wanting to eat any of their pastries, I'll > typically snack throughout the day on dried fruits and nuts. And before > each main meal, I mix fiber powder in water. I also eat a lot of fresh > fruit and vegetables.
>
> "It's only from the information you sent that I learned I should be on a > low-fiber (low-residue diet) and NOT a high fiber diet!! Obviously, I'll > be making a big change in my diet."
>
> If you suffer with frequent bowel problems, perhaps a diet low in fiber > (low-residue diet) and drinking at least 6 to 8 - 8oz. glasses of water > each day will help you become more comfortable.
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><STRONG>Possible bowel obstruction puts > man in
> hospital; but he solved his own problem!!</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial size=3>I received a letter from > a young man,
> who had the misfortune of having to spend Easter 2001 in the hospital > because of
> a possible bowel obstruction. Perhaps someone else can benefit&nbsp;as a > result
> of his experience.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial > size=3>&nbsp;
> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial > size=3></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial size=3>He said:</FONT><FONT > face=Arial
> size=3>&nbsp; </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial > size=3>"It seems that
> my assertiveness coupled with my surgeons willingness to let me try > solving the
> bowel obstruction by drinking alot of water --and not eating -- has paid > off.
> I'm passing gas now, have no pain, have eaten some food today without > ill effect
> and am being discharged. </FONT></DIV>
> <P><FONT face=Arial size=3>"Being very health conscious may have > precipitated
> (caused ) my bowel obstruction and hospital stay. I'm a web developer > and use "a
> specific restaurant" as my office away from home. I may spend 6 - 8 > hours a day
> there with my laptop. Not wanting to eat any of their pastries, I'll > typically
> snack throughout the day on dried fruits and nuts. And before each main > meal, I
> mix fiber powder in water. I also eat a lot of fresh fruit and > vegetables.
> </FONT>
> <P><FONT face=Arial size=3>"It's only from the information you sent > that I
> learned I should be on a low-fiber (low-residue diet) and NOT a high > fiber
> diet!! Obviously, I'll be making a big change in my diet." </FONT>
> <P><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=3>If you suffer with frequent bowel > problems,
> perhaps a diet low in fiber (low-residue diet) and drinking at least 6 > to 8 -
> 8oz. glasses of water each day&nbsp;will help you become more
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> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:29:57 -0500 (CDT)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)
> To: ADHESIONS@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: I'm new here!
> Message-ID: <200204090029.g390Tvu02965@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Hello!
> I just found this site and I'm hoping some of the other members here can
> help me out. In Nov. of 2000 I had my first laparoscopy as I was
> having alot of constant pelvic pain. They did find adhesions and I was
> told they were around my intestines I believe. Well, of course I am
> still having the pain...it's like a pulling, tearing, burning, constant
> pain, like my insides are being dug out! I stopped focusing on the
> adhesions because in July of 2001 a Rheumatologist diagnosed me with
> Fibromyalgia. I had begun to have all over body pain. Currently I am
> having less body pain and so now I am noticing the pelvic/bladder area
> pain. I am waiting for a referral to go see a Uro & GI doctor to rule
> out Interstital Cystitis and IBS. I guess if those doctors say I am
> fine, I will have to accept that it is the adhesions back. I also have
> low back pain and the pelvic pain that I get is usually directed to my
> right side; alot of pinching over there too. My stomach is HUGE...very
> embarrassing and I always try to suck it in and that is very exhausting.
> Can anyone tell me where I should start? Should I get the records from
> my surgery so I can see if the adhesions were very badly intruding on my
> intestines? Is the doctor obligated to give me a copy or are they
> suppossed to charge me for the records?? I'd like to have some
> information from anyone that knows about adhesions and blockages of the
> intestines...I have wondered about this also since I get constipated
> alot (it could be the pain killers!). I thank you in advance and hope
> to correspond here frequently even though I wish I didn't have to!! Be
> well, Deanna
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:05:22 EDT
> ------------------------------
> From: RNURSERAS@aol.com
> To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> Subject: Re: I'm new here!
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> Dear Deanna:
> You very well could, and probably do have adhesions back. By all means
secure > all of your operative notes. They are YOUR records and you are entitled to
a > copy of them. Also secure all pathology related to your surgery. if you
have > ever had any other type of abdominal surgery. Read stories on the adhesion
> quilt. read as much of the message board as you can. Ask questions. But
above > all else do not let another doctor open you up unless it is a matter of
life > or death!
> I have adhesions that are twisting my bowels. I have all of the symptoms
that > you have. Many ARD (adhesion related disorder) sufferers have been
diagnosed > with IBS. I have it to, but am not sure that it is not really being caused
by > the adhesions attached to my colon. Right now I suffer with partial bowel
> obstructions and I am in chronic pain. I am also a full time nursing
student > and work full time as well as a full time Mom and wife. I have learned to
> stay busy and ignore the pain. It is getting harder for me now. I am
unable > to take a lot of the meds that would help me. I would be happy to help you
> any way that I can. Ask me anything. I will give my email address and you
may > contact me directly if you wish. And welcome to our boards! Just remember
> that YOU ARE NOT ALONE any more!
> Raven Spurlin
> Hot Springs, Arkansas
> rnurseras@aol.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:48:07 -0500
> ------------------------------
> From: "Sally Grigg" <lostcst@mcn.org>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Re: Sally honey bunny re: Germany
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> Dear Chrissy, No, I would never put my pain on you or anyone else. It > lessened a little yesterday. And its back a little worse today. So I had > a respite. Not always the same. I've been watching my video of the > surgery, takes hours , but it help me . It actually calms me down. I see > what is happening and I can relate. The big, glowing things are filled > with blood, and they are attached to lots of stuff and there were so > many. So very, very, many, but I'm sure they got them all. I saw the > whole thing. And people say stop watching, I'm obsessing, but I don't > think so, cause I was depressed and now I'm still in pain, but I'm not > depressed. I can see what is happening and I get a perverse kick out of > it, somehow. I don't know. Maybe, I am crazy. But to see the actual > adhesions and to see them being taken down and away is such a great > feeling.
>
> Sorry to ramble on and on, hope you're okay. Love, Sally
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Chrissy, No, I would never put my > pain on you
> or anyone else. It lessened a little yesterday. And its back a little > worse
> today. So I had a respite. Not always the same. I've been watching my > video of
> the surgery, takes hours , but it help me . It actually calms me down. I > see
> what is happening and I can relate. The big, glowing things are filled > with
> blood, and they are attached to lots of stuff and there were so many. So > very,
> very, many, but I'm sure they got them all. I saw the whole thing. And > people
> say stop watching, I'm obsessing, but I don't think so, cause I was > depressed
> and now I'm still in pain, but I'm not depressed. I can see what is > happening
> and I get a perverse kick out of it, somehow. I don't know. Maybe, I am > crazy.
> But to see the actual adhesions and to see them being taken down and > away is
> such a great feeling. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry to ramble on and on, hope you're > okay. Love,
> Sally</FONT></DIV>
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> From: "Sally Grigg" <lostcst@mcn.org>
> To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
> Subject: Re: Lesa
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> Dear Helen, could you send me back that email without the Hellyon > but with a nice name for me to give to my doctor? He'll look at the name > and reject it, that's him, not me. Love, Sally

>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hchalm@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Lesa
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> Dear Lesa:
>
> Most doctors do realize that the oxy doesn't last the 12 hours that it > claims to last, but convincing your doctor seems to be the problem. > Perhaps if you asked for something for breakthrough pain (most people > are offered something else besides the oxy) like tylox, roxycodone. I'm > not sure what others have been offered but you may want to ask others at > the board. It just sounds like you need one more pill to get you > through the day. Hope your doctor will listen to you.
>
> Love,
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> Hell-yun
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Helen, could you send me back that > email
> without the Hellyon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but with a nice name > for me to
> give to my doctor? He'll look at the name and reject it, that's him, not > me.
> Love, Sally</FONT></DIV>
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> <A title=Hchalm@aol.com > href="mailto:Hchalm@aol.com">Hchalm@aol.com</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
> title­hesions@mail.medispecialty.com
> href="mailto:adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com">Multiple recipients > of list
> ADHESIONS</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 06, 2002 > 12:58
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Lesa</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 > face=Tahoma
> color=#8000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Dear Lesa:<BR><BR>Most > doctors do
> realize that the oxy doesn't last the 12 hours that it claims to last, > but
> convincing your doctor seems to be the problem.&nbsp; Perhaps if you > asked for
> something for breakthrough pain (most people are offered something > else
> besides the oxy) like tylox, roxycodone.&nbsp; I'm not sure what > others have
> been offered but you may want to ask others at the board.&nbsp; It > just sounds
> like you need one more pill to get you through the day.&nbsp; Hope > your doctor
> will listen to you.<BR><BR>Love,<BR><BR>Hell-yun</FONT>
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> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 00:59:50 EDT
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> From: Joppashell@aol.com
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> Subject: Music heals the soul --listen
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