Re: Rita -- being blackmailed into surgery

From: Rita Steele (steelerita@yahoo.com)
Sat Jul 27 18:26:32 2002


Cathy, Thanks for the advice. But I have no $ & I'm too sick & tired to fight right now! Take Care, Rita in AZ --- "cathy:-" <anonymous@medispecialty.com> wrote: > Rita, I really think that you need to consult a
> lawyer. Here's what I
> think is going on with the disability insurance
> company: they want to
> force you to allow some clueless surgeon to commit
> malpractice on you.
> Then you sue the surgeon for millions, and since you
> are a millionaire
> you won't need your disability payments.
>
> You need a lawyer who can help you NOW to get the
> insurance company to
> put everything in writing. You need to do things
> like print out the
> scientific studies which show that the surgery that
> they are demanding
> will almost certainly make your disability worse,
> and may very well kill
> you. Then those need to be notarized and sent to
> the insurance company
> medical director in such a way that he has to sign
> for them.
>
> Basically, what you have to do with the insurance
> company is to stop
> acting like some poor hapless victim who has to do
> whatever they say.
> Instead, your attitude should be hardheaded, "don't
> push me around, I'm
> very carefully collecting evidence so that I will
> OWN you after the
> lawsuits!" And "Look, buster, it'll be better for
> all of us if we stop
> the insanity BEFORE it happens!"
>
> >From the disability insurance company's financial
> point of view, the
> best thing that could happen to THEM is if the
> surgeon kills you. Even
> if they are carrying a life insurance policy on you,
> too, usually those
> company-provided life insurance plans aren't for
> much, and compared to
> years and years of disability payments the life
> insurance payout is a
> bargain.
>
> This is why you absolutely need a lawyer. You need
> to find some way for
> it to be so expensive for the disability company to
> kill you that they
> will make the hardheaded business decision that
> keeping you alive and
> paying your disability payments is the most
> economical path.
>
> If the issue is purely one of diagnosis, then there
> may be a chance that
> a lap which is purely for diagnosis would be
> acceptable. And it IS
> possible to have one of those so that you a small
> (but not zero) chance
> that things will get worse. But again it is
> important that any surgeon
> going in understands that if he gets any bright
> ideas about converting
> to a laporotomy and "cleaning out" all those
> adhesions, and then you end
> up in worse shape, well if that happens then you and
> your
> ambulance-chasing lawyer are gonna OWN this
> surgeon's porsche and big
> house and kids' college funds...
>
> Part of legal threats is that they work best as
> deterents. Maybe your
> local ACLU would like to be involved in a civil
> rights lawsuit over the
> issue of a company forcing you to have surgery which
> is life-threatening
> and probably will leave you more disabled.
>
> At Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Rita Steele wrote:
> >
> >Karla,
> >Thank you so much for giving me the info. on Dr.
> >Kruschinski. I'm really in a bind right now. I will
> be
> >taken off disability if I don't have surgery ASAP.
> My
> >employer needs a firm diagnosis just saying I'm in
> >pain doesn't cut it with them. Isn't it amazing
> with
> >all the technology, no one can measure pain! I
> can't
> >afford to lose my job (health insurance, too) & I
> >can't survive without my disability (small though
> it
> >may be). So I'm between a rock & a hard place.
> >Thanks again,
> >Take care,
> >Rita in AZ
> >--- Karla <ifirgit@new.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Rita,
> >>
> >> I would check around to find out about Germany.
> >> There is the new clinic
> >> that just opened in Frankfurt that is using the
> >> spraygel. The doctor's name
> >> is Kruschinski and I have heard that he is
> >> wonderful. The following was a
> >> site that was given on this board in connection
> with
> >> Dr. Kruschinski...I
> >> didn't check it out so I don't know if it is his
> >> website or not, but perhaps
> >> it will give you information you might need. I
> find
> >> it a little hard to
> >> believe that a new clinic is backed up that far.
> I
> >> do know that such is
> >> probably close to the truth about Dr. Korell. My
> >> feelings are that given
> >> our situation and how much worse each surgery
> makes
> >> us, participating in any
> >> of the studies is not worth the chance. If we
> were
> >> to participate in this
> >> study we would have a 50% chance of getting the
> >> Spraygel...but also a 50%
> >> chance of having things made worse. Not worth
> the
> >> odds to me. I would
> >> rather either go to Germany to a doctor who I
> know
> >> IS using the SprayGel or
> >> wait until SprayGel is approved here in the
> states
> >> and you are guaranteed
> >> its useage. I am not trying to make decisions
> for
> >> anybody, I just want to
> >> prevent people from ending up like me. Pain is
> an
> >> awful thing.....but death
> >> is worse. Give me pain any day versus having to
> >> live with the knowledge
> >> that you are dying and there isn't a damn thing
> >> anyone can do about it.
> >>
> >> God Bless!
> >>
> >> Karla
> >>
> >> Somewhere up in the stars.................
> >> My angel and me!
> >>
> >> http://www.geocities.com/karlasfamily2001
> >>
>

http://www.geocities.com/princessd82000/BraydensHaven > >

>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: &quot;Rita Steele&quot;
> <steelerita@yahoo.com>
> >> To: &quot;Multiple recipients of list
> ADHESIONS&quot;
> >> <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:46 PM
> >> Subject: Re: A second study - involving Spray Gel
> -
> >> by Confluent Surgical
> >> Inc. - is being conducted at Atlanta, Georgia!!
> >>
> >> > Has anyone applied & been accepted by any of
> these
> >> > studies? I called about the one in Sandy, Utah
> but
> >> was
> >> > told it was only on lower abdominal adhesions.
> >> I've
> >> > contacted Dr. Lyons on this second study & I'm
> >> waiting
> >> > for a phone consultation with him. I don't know
> if
> >> my
> >> > insurance co. will pay for this surgery because
> >> it's
> >> > out of state, but I'm going to call tomorrow &
> >> find
> >> > out. Dr. Lyons said their are 500 people on the
> >> > waiting list to have surgery in Germany with
> >> Spraygel.
> >> > I'm scheduled to have &quot;Diagnostic
> Laparoscopy with
> >> > Lysis of Adhesions&quot; on Mon. July 29 in
> Phoenix,
> >> AZ,
> >> > but the surgeon does not use any barriers but I
> >> can't
>
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