Re: Who is going to Germany for surgery Jan 16,17

From: Lisa (lilylover5555@aol.com)
Wed Jan 8 12:27:48 2003


At Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Dr.Moore wrote: >
>At Wed, 8 Jan 2003, K. Murray wrote:
>I am a physician who is quite puzzled by this website. I have much
>experience with adhesions and I see them quite often during surgery. I
>was taught (as were most physicians) that adhesions are caused by
>surgery and therefore doing surgery to correct them was circular logic
>(doing surgery to correct something caused by surgery could cause the
>same problem). Now obviously there are less invasive surgical
>techniques (eg laparoscopy) to try and prevent adhesions, but there are
>no guarantees they won't reform. In addition, doing surgery on someone
>with adhesions is more difficult (organs can be 'adhesed' together
>and/or in the wrong place making injury to them more likely). I would
>like more information about this 'gel' the German doctor is using. There
>have been many attempts by pharmaceutical companies to produce a
>substance that prevents adhesions. The name "Intercede" comes to mind
>as one that was tried. Unfortunately, none have been shown in medical
>trials to work. Believe me, it would be a medical miracle if someone
>could prevent adhesion formation. But as far as I know, no one can. I
>hate telling someone they have terrible pain that I can't do anything
>about, but that is the facts as I know them.
>
>In closing, I don't write this to dash anybody's hopes or cast doubt on
>any physician's credentials. But beware false prophets- since the days
>of snake oil salesmen there have been all kinds of 'cures' for illnesses
>that later didn't pan out. I don't want to see anyone spend a lot of
>money on things that don't work and could potentially be harmful (such
>as unneccessary surgery).
>
>-Dr. Moore, OB/GYN
>

Dear Dr.Moore, My name is Lisa Graven, I was the first American to go to Frankfurt for surgery with Dr.Kruschinski. I came home 100% adhesion free and have the pictures to prove it! I can tell you that the treatment they offer in Frankfurt DOES WORK! I have had other problems, chronic pancreatitis, which may have been caused by my hysterectomy, or maybe a very large vascular adhesion they found attached to my liver... who knows...I had a "third look" done 3 months later, and I'm still adhesion free!! I am also a case study that Dr. Kruschinski did, I have some copies if you are interested,or have any other questions,you can email me personally. I am also now the patient advocate for the doctors in Frankfurt. I've helped some patients set up their trip to Germany. This is the best chance we have at becoming adhesion free. It worked for me, and it has worked for many others!! Lisa

>>
>>Mary Lou,
>>I went to Germany in December and had surgery. I walked alot after surgery
>>post-op. I even walked back to the flat from the hospital after surgery.
>>I felt worse after sitting on the plane forever coming home. It set me back
>>some.So maybe it will be a good idea for you to walk around alot.
>>Kelly
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: adhesions@adhesions.org
>>Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:39:07 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>>Subject: Who is going to Germany for surgery Jan 16,17
>>
>>Hello folks,
>>This is from me, Mary Lou, also known as "desperate". As some of you
>>know, I have made he decision to go to Germany as soon as possible to
>>have surgery by Dr. K. Someone sent me a message stating that three
>>others are going over there for surgery on Jan 16, and Jan 17. Does
>>anyone know who these three are and how I can get in touch with them? I
>>am hoping to have my time there overlap with their time there, as I do
>>not have a companion to stay with me in the apartment. I am having a
>>plastic surgery, not a laporoscopy, in which they will undue my scar
>>pull back as much skin as necessary, and remove the adhesions, spray gel
>>the surfaces, and they resuture. I hope I will have time the day before
>>surgery to go to the grocery and stock up the apt with food, because I
>>do not think I will feel like venturing out for several days post-op.
>>Three people have gone so far and all are now adhesion-free. As more
>>and more go, eventually there will be a caravan of adhesion sufferers
>>making the trip. Yes, It is expensive, but when I think of day after
>>day of this continuous pain for the rest of my life, the thought
>>overwhelms me. thanks. Mary Lou
>>
>>--
>>mary lou
>>


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