At Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Spincon58 . wrote:
>
>To, Kim,Carolyn, Anthea, Karen , Lisa and Jo , and to all the supporters who
>fight ARD.
>
>I want to thank you for your well wishes. It's not an easy choice going to
>Germany. But it is a choice with no other options. But we have options as
>suffers.
>
>I believe in my heart that we have a right to receive medical treatment like
>anyone else suffering from a disease. I feel we have to ALL take a stand and
>educate the doctors , educate the government, inform family and friends to
>listen!!! So we can be recognized and maybe one day Spraygel and gasless lap
>can be available to us. We want surgery with 95 % chance to get better not
>80% chance you'll have this again!
>
>Why something so simple like scar tissue cannot be controlled?. My surgeon
>said adhesions are making me sick, so why isn't anyone in U.S.A.researching
>to help me get better. Everyone in this group should do one thing to help
>ARD suffers. I'm going to start by trying to get New Jersey to recognize
>that Adhesions can cause depilating illness. We sell girl scout cookies,
>help PTA, volunteer our time with charity, take care of elder parents, tend
>to animals,so LETS HELP OURSLEVES......
>
>Connie
>
>>From: Adhesions Society <adhesions@adhesions.org>
>>Reply-To: adhesions@adhesions.org
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>>Subject: ADHESIONS digest 2788
>>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:19:34 -0500
>>
>> ADHESIONS Digest 2788
>>
>>Topics covered in this issue include:
>>
>> 1) Re: up- date on my 7 year old sufferer
>> by "Karen Steward" <kann@charter.net>
>> 2) Re: Doctors in Chicago
>> by "Karen Steward" <kann@charter.net>
>> 3) Adhesions ..&.. Photos of adhesions
>> by "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
>>
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>>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:23:39 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
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>>From: "Karen Steward" <kann@charter.net>
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>>Subject: Re: up- date on my 7 year old sufferer
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>>Hi Evelyn and Zac,
>>
>> Illness and suffering have no favorites. From the youngest to the old >st,
>>in all nationalities, many, many people suffer. My heart goes out to you >
>>both--there is never a rhyme or reason and our motherly, nurturing minds >
>>can't comprehend why OUR child is the unfortunate one, the one in pain,
>>and robbed of the quality of life we see in other children. In our minds >we
>>know there are other children that suffer also, but often it seems it is
>>only
>>our child dealing with day in and day out battles that never cease. Our
>>lives
>>can end up feeling like sad rainy days each and every day with very few
>>rays of sunshine and always another dark cloud looming ahead. The world
>>goes on, and we sit back and watch. We aren't a participant, only a
>>spectator,
>>stuck in a cruel, unkind, hopeless existence. Each day when we wake, our
>>minds immediately remember "oh, yes, another day in which to hurt"...... >..
>>We exhaust ourselves as mothers, trying to take their little minds away >rom
>>the
>>pain, if only for a little while. As they get older they begin to catch >n
>>to what
>>mom (mum) is doing and they begin to feel sorry for their mom (mum).
>>And a bond is formed that is more than a mother and her child, two broke >
>>hearts are bound together each looking to the other as they both cry out
>>for help.
>>
>> Evelyn, I am so sorry for the pain that is heaped upon your son and t >e
>>sorrow
>>you deal with each day. Cling to the hope that there is always tomorrow.
>>Each day truly brings new opportunity and new hope. It is so very hard to
>>see
>>it when you are in the middle of the battlefield. All your natural mind >an
>>see is
>>attack and enemy all around you..........I know all about those sparse t >mes
>>of "fantastic" days or years you speak of.........we are then lulled into
>>thinking
>>"It is over--we won" and then we are hit again......each time this happe >s
>>we
>>begin to be afraid to ever rejoice, as we tighten up inside--knowing the
>>victory
>>won't last......... regardless, we must look beyond and believe, believe,
>>believe
>>the day WILL come for our child. Remain steadfast, unmovable, unshakeabl >,
>>strong and firm in YOUR hope for your child. Surround yourself with book > of
>>
>>hope and healing and encouragement. This will help you keep from losing >our
>>mind. A special song in your heart will help you and your son too.
>>
>> I know these are mere words written on a page........they don't give y >u
>>what you
>>so desperately need...........I wish I could give that to you, as I know
>>many others
>>will feel the same as they read about your precious Zac boy..............
>>but know
>>today I shed a tear for you and many for that sweet Zac..........from one
>>mom to another,
>>I feel your pain and it tears at the soul.
>>
>> Blessings to you both,
>>You will be in my continual prayer.
>>
>>Karen
>>
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: adhesions@adhesions.org
>>Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 03:40:39 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>>Subject: up- date on my 7 year old sufferer
>>
>> My son Zac and I have not posted nor read for a while
>>and what alot of changes. Well done to all those concerned.
>>
>> IN brief Zac was born with a malrotation or a deformity
>>in his bowel and surgeon did life saving surgery to seperate
>>his obstructed mangled bowel. Adhesions formed and at 2 years old they
>>removed massive adhesions throughout his bowel.
>>
>> After about 1.5 fantastic pain/constipation free years
>>his pain/constipation has worsened gradually year by year.
>>He suffers almost daily from sore backs, neck, legs and
>>ofcourse sore tummies. With lots of medication he does go
>>to the toilet everyday but loading is always a problem.
>>
>>Right now we are waiting for another battery of tests to commence and
>>way up the options for further surgery.
>>He has difficulty concentrating and often daydreams at school. He is
>>well behind for his age so it puts pressure on us to want to improve his
>>current health status now.
>>We also worry about his pain level 20 years from now and the decisions
>>we make now will have a major impact on him later.
>>
>> I would love to have some support and feedback from anyone.
>>We were using lazer treatment for a year but had to stop it as long term
>>we did not know how it would affect him.
>>
>> Regards Evelyn
>> watsayyou@xtra.co.nz
>>
>>--
>>mums the word
>>
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>><DIV>Hi Evelyn and Zac,</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> Illness and suffering have no favorites. From the >youngest to the oldest,</DIV>
>><DIV>in all nationalities, many, many people suffer. My heart goes >ut to you </DIV>
>><DIV>both<IMG id=INCREDIINSERTIMAGE src="cid:5E132140-04FA-4A86-976B >ABF591B9BB26" INCREDIIMAGEEXTENSIONS="INCREDIANIMEXTENSIONS,124,SU1CTD >sNDYsgUmBSTQkKCSZnY2BTZnBgYVNiSiVgU3BnTiNTSwkjZksgYmVhZWBiUmBSYFJgSxJTUJ >MiwwLCxJTUJMMywwLCxUeXBlVmVyc2lvbiwzLDEuMCw=" INCREDIIMAGEATTRIBS="I >CREDIANIM,CADA6750-6801-4D30-87F5-EA56E0431304,033102flo_1_prv.imi,Image >My Collection,My Collection,033102flo_1_prv,033102flo_1_prv.gif,,3.0">-- >here is never a rhyme or reason and our motherly, nurturing minds </DIV>
>><DIV>can't comprehend why OUR child is the unfortunate one, the one in p >in,</DIV>
>><DIV>and robbed of the quality of life we see in other children. In our >inds we </DIV>
>><DIV>know there are other children that suffer also, but often it seems >t is only </DIV>
>><DIV>our child dealing with day in and day out battles that never cease. >Our lives</DIV>
>><DIV>can end up feeling like sad rainy days each and every day with very >few </DIV>
>><DIV>rays of sunshine and always another dark cloud looming ahead. The w >rld </DIV>
>><DIV>goes on, and we sit back and watch. We aren't a participant, only a >spectator, </DIV>
>><DIV>stuck in a cruel, unkind, hopeless existence. Each day when we wake > our</DIV>
>><DIV>minds immediately remember "oh, yes, another day in which to hurt". >.......</DIV>
>><DIV>We exhaust ourselves as mothers, trying to take their little minds >way from the</DIV>
>><DIV>pain, if only for a little while. As they get older they begin to c >tch on to what </DIV>
>><DIV>mom (mum) is doing and they begin to feel sorry for their mom (mum) > </DIV>
>><DIV>And a bond is formed that is more than a mother and her child, two >roken </DIV>
>><DIV>hearts are bound together each looking to the other as they both cr > out</DIV>
>><DIV>for help. </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> Evelyn, I am so sorry for the pain that is heaped upon >your son and the sorrow</DIV>
>><DIV>you deal with each day. Cling to the hope that there is always tomo >row.</DIV>
>><DIV>Each day truly brings new opportunity and new hope. It is so very h >rd to see </DIV>
>><DIV>it when you are in the middle of the battlefield. All your natural >ind can see is</DIV>
>><DIV>attack and enemy all around you..........I know all about those&nbs >;sparse times</DIV>
>><DIV>of "fantastic" days or years you speak of.........we are then lulle > into thinking</DIV>
>><DIV>"It is over--we won" and then we are hit again......each time >his happens we</DIV>
>><DIV>begin to be afraid to ever rejoice, as we tighten up inside--k >owing the victory</DIV>
>><DIV>won't last......... regardless, we must look beyond and believ >, believe, believe</DIV>
>><DIV>the day WILL come for our child. Remain steadfast, unmovable, unsha >eable,</DIV>
>><DIV>strong and firm in YOUR hope for your child. Surround yourself with >books of </DIV>
>><DIV>hope and healing and encouragement. This will help you keep from lo >ing your</DIV>
>><DIV>mind. A special song in your heart will help you and your son too.< >DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> I know these are mere words written on a page........they do >'t give you what you</DIV>
>><DIV>so desperately need...........I wish I could give that to you, as I >know many others </DIV>
>><DIV>will feel the same as they read about your precious Zac boy........ >......but know</DIV>
>><DIV>today I shed a tear for you and many for that sweet Zac..........fr >m one mom to another,</DIV>
>><DIV>I feel your pain and it tears at the soul.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> Blessings to you both,</DIV>
>><DIV>You will be in my continual prayer.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Karen</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></ >IV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV id=receivestrings>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href=" >ailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A></DIV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Tuesday, Ju >e 17, 2003 03:40:39 AM</DIV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="ma >lto:adhesions@dns.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A></ >IV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> up- date >on my 7 year old sufferer</DIV></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> My son Zac and I have not posted nor read for a >hile</DIV>
>><DIV>and what alot of changes. Well done to all those concerned.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> IN brief Zac was born with a malrotation or a de >ormity</DIV>
>><DIV>in his bowel and surgeon did life saving surgery to seperate</DIV>
>><DIV>his obstructed mangled bowel. Adhesions formed and at 2 years old t >ey</DIV>
>><DIV>removed massive adhesions throughout his bowel.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> After about 1.5 fantastic pain/constipation free >years</DIV>
>><DIV>his pain/constipation has worsened gradually year by year.</DIV>
>><DIV>He suffers almost daily from sore backs, neck, legs and</DIV>
>><DIV>ofcourse sore tummies. With lots of medication he does go</DIV>
>><DIV>to the toilet everyday but loading is always a problem.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Right now we are waiting for another battery of tests to commence a >d</DIV>
>><DIV>way up the options for further surgery.</DIV>
>><DIV>He has difficulty concentrating and often daydreams at school. He i ></DIV>
>><DIV>well behind for his age so it puts pressure on us to want to improv > his</DIV>
>><DIV>current health status now.</DIV>
>><DIV>We also worry about his pain level 20 years from now and the decisi >ns</DIV>
>><DIV>we make now will have a major impact on him later.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> I would love to have some support and feedback f >om anyone.</DIV>
>><DIV>We were using lazer treatment for a year but had to stop it as long >term</DIV>
>><DIV>we did not know how it would affect him.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> Regards Evelyn</DIV>
>><DIV> <A href="mailto:watsayyou@xtra.co.nz">watsayyo >@xtra.co.nz</A></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>--</DIV>
>><DIV>mums the word</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
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>>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:38:00 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
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>>From: "Karen Steward" <kann@charter.net>
>>------------------------------
>>To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
>>------------------------------
>>Subject: Re: Doctors in Chicago
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>>Sherry,
>>
>> I agree with the post this morning from Connie. Also, I would LOVE to k >ow
>>who your
>>US doctor was, as there are people writing me that cannot go to Germany >ue
>>to the
>>fact that they have no funds and their insurance will not cover the "out >of
>>country".
>>
>> I didn't see that Carolyn claimed her results were any better than anyo >e
>>else's, so I
>>really didn't understand the attack on her post.........she was merely
>>telling HER story.
>>Again, please tell us YOUR story since you have had success...........pl >ase
>>don't rain
>>on Carolyn's parade unwarranted............and leave us hanging on your
>>story.........
>>
>> I can tell an equal story about my own daughter and surgery in the US-- >and
>>it will be
>>much the same as Carolyn's.........I spent 13 plus years trying to find
>>Melissa help.
>>She had 2 surgeries in the US and within 4 months of the first surgery, >he
>>was very
>>ill again--but more importantly, never felt ANY relief after that surger >...
>>.... in fact, I
>>was bouncing around her living room right after the first surgery, in
>>ecstasy, as I had
>>PROOF finally of her illness,
>>(photos) and PROOF the problems had been removed (photos)...........when
>>Melissa
>>said after many hours of seeing my joy, "Mom, I really hate to tell you
>>this---I still FEEL
>>very, very, sick--just as before".................WHAT???? How could that
>>be?? I was certain she was mistaken, but I said nothing. My mind couldn't
>>comprehend what she was saying....and
>>I KNEW my daughter had held it in as long as she could--------she had
>>watched me for hours, smiling, laughing, rejoicing over the "problem" be >ng
>>removed!!!!!! She didn't want to tell me
>>her body felt the same..... but only hurt a little more due to the surge >y.
>>
>> A second surgery in California left her in bed for 8 weeks upon our re >urn
>>home........and as ill as ever. Mind you, the surgeon was "world renowne >",
>>a wonderful person, etc...........BUT, once again..........she still hur >...
>>........and once again, same pain, with the additional surgery pain.
>>
>> For us, the third time was the charm, as they say............Melissa t >o
>>had surgery with Dr. Kruschinski in Germany. Upon being wheeled down the
>>hall into her room at the Emma Klinik,
>>Melissa looked up at me rather groggily and said, "Mom.......I feel
>>different this time"............
>>within HOURS she was ready to get out of bed (although she was not allow >d
>>to) and immediately began telling me her breathing felt different (Dr.
>>Kruschinski had already told me "adhesions on diaphragm--she will breathe
>>better now)..........the next day she was walking the hall so fast that I
>>was worried she would hurt herself.........granted, other women that had >had
>>surgery weren't moving like Melissa, but they were not as young either...
>>another American woman said, as they passed in the hall, "you'd better s >ow
>>down"..............lol..............
>>
>>Melissa was afraid to speak too much that she really felt better-------- >as
>>she had been sick for so many years and the 2 prior surgeries that had n >t
>>helped her left her so saddened and angry that she had fought me about g >ing
>>to Germany (convinced it would be a worthless trip)..............THAT IS >HOW
>>THE US SURGERIES AFFECTED MY DAUGHTER!!
>>
>>So, all that said.........whew......this is why Carolyn is happy......sa >e
>>reason we are happy.........she and Melissa FELT DIFFERENT RIGHT AFTER
>>SURGERY.......not something
>>that was achieved after US surgery.
>>
>>Melissa and I were walking downtown, by the river, etc. on the third day
>>after her surgery with Dr. Kruschinski. The next day, we went again..... >.
>>and then she began saying her intestines "seemed to be trying to work".. >...
>>.....she had surgery pain, but was not intolerable and she was on very
>>little pain medication (for surgery pain)............Melissa was one of >he
>>few that had to have more surgery at her second look and that surgery wa > a
>>little harder to jump up from.........but, still not as bad as what she >ad
>>had in the US...........by the time we boarded the plane to fly home she >was
>>opening up a little, talking more, etc........but still rather reserved- >and
>>the suspense was killing me..............
>>during the flight she said, "Mom, I am a little worried.........I can no
>>longer feel my intestines........it makes me think something is wrong... >...
>>.even though I am not hurting in my stomach like I was, I can't feel my
>>intestines...........and it is making me worry...........you feel your
>>intestines, don't you???"
>>
>>I realized then, she had NO recollection of what wellness felt like..... >...
>>..and I had to cry........I gently explained to her, "No, you are not
>>SUPPOSE to feel your intestines".................then she began telling >e
>>that her stomach had felt SO relaxed since surgery that she thought
>>something HAD to be wrong!
>>
>> Dr. Kruschinski said there was not an area of Melissa's large or small
>>bowel that did not have adhesions............loops and loops and loops of
>>adhesions..........and he stated to me after her
>>surgery "food could not pass through"...................
>>
>>I was told in the US surgeries, "her bowel is not involved".............
>>
>>So, Sherry, no one is stating anything "for certain"...........as we all
>>know LIFE is uncertain.
>>Carolyn was only stating her experience and how glad she is to be FREE f >om
>>the pain of adhesions.
>>
>>There was a difference after the surgery with Dr. Kruschinski, a differe >ce
>>that is FELT in the
>>body, a difference that makes you want to share with others............. >..
>>
>>Best Wishes,
>>
>>Karen
>>
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: adhesions@adhesions.org
>>Date: Monday, June 16, 2003 07:20:30 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>>Subject: Re: Doctors in Chicago
>>
>>I don't mean to be a skeptic, but truth is, guess I am. When did you ha >e
>>your surgery in Germany? Is it not true that adhesions can reoccur even
>>years later? How do you know that you are absolutely going to be adhesi >n
>>free?
>>
>>I had an adhesiolysis here in the U.S. in December and am still adhesion
>>free. How do we know for sure your results will be any better than mine >
>>
>>Again, don't mean this harshly in any way...just don't see how you all c >n
>>know for certain that your results will be better than mine or anyone el >es.
>>
>>Sherry
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>><DIV>Sherry,</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> I agree with the post this morning from Connie. Also, I would >LOVE to know who your</DIV>
>><DIV>US doctor was, as there are people writing me that cannot go to Ger >any due to the </DIV>
>><DIV>fact that they have no funds and their insurance will not cover the >"out of country". </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> I didn't see that Carolyn claimed her results were any better >than anyone else's, so I</DIV>
>><DIV>really didn't understand the attack on her post.........she was mer >ly telling HER story.</DIV>
>><DIV>Again, please tell us YOUR story since you have had success... >.......please don't rain </DIV>
>><DIV>on Carolyn's parade unwarranted............and leave us hanging on >our story.........</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> I can tell an equal story about my own daughter and surgery i > the US---and it will be</DIV>
>><DIV>much the same as Carolyn's.........I spent 13 plus years trying to& >bsp;find Melissa help.</DIV>
>><DIV>She had 2 surgeries in the US and within 4 months of the first surg >ry, she was very</DIV>
>><DIV>ill again--but more importantly, never felt <STRONG>ANY</STRON > > <U>relief </U>after that surgery........ in fact, I</DIV>
>><DIV>was bouncing around her living room right after the first surg >ry, in ecstasy, as I had</DIV>
>><DIV>PROOF<STRONG> finally</STRONG> of her illness, </DIV>
>><DIV>(photos) and PROOF the <U>problems had been removed (photos)<IMG sr >="cid:71FB15C3-B72E-411D-B6F7-6D54231CF7CD">...........</U>when Meliss > </DIV>
>><DIV>said after many hours of seeing my joy, "Mom, I really hate to tell >you this---I still <STRONG>FEEL</STRONG></DIV>
>><DIV>very, very, sick--just as before"<IMG src="cid:D3BD9B3D-BEA5-489B >AF27-648FB1718CCF">.................WHAT???? How could that be?? I was c >rtain she was mistaken, but I said nothing. My mind couldn't comprehend >hat she was saying....and</DIV>
>><DIV>I KNEW my daughter had held it in as long as she could--------she h >d watched me for hours, smiling, laughing, rejoicing over the "problem" >eing removed!!!!!! She didn't want to tell me</DIV>
>><DIV><U>her body felt the same</U>..... but only hurt a little more due >o the surgery.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> A second surgery in California left her in bed for <STRONG>8 >weeks</STRONG> upon our return home........and as ill as ever. Mind you, >the surgeon was "world renowned", a wonderful person, etc...........BUT, >once again..........she still hurt............<U>and once again, same pa >n, with the additional surgery pain.</U></DIV>
>><DIV><U></U> </DIV>
>><DIV> For us, the third time was the charm,<IMG src="cid:6B09FB2 >-6373-440B-9459-89862704D36A"> as they say............Melissa too had su >gery with Dr. Kruschinski in Germany. Upon being wheeled down the hall i >to her room at the Emma Klinik,</DIV>
>><DIV>Melissa looked up at me rather groggily and said, "Mom.......I feel >different this time"............</DIV>
>><DIV>within HOURS she was ready to get out of bed (although she was not >llowed to) and immediately began telling me her breathing felt different >(Dr. Kruschinski had already told me "adhesions on diaphragm--she will b >eathe better now)..........the next day she was walking the hall so fast >that I was worried she would hurt herself<IMG src="cid:C531AE66-2027-4 >C2-BCDB-9FF8DD7232E5">.........granted, other women that had had surgery >weren't moving like Melissa, but they were not as young either....anothe > American woman said, as they passed in the hall, "you'd better slow dow >"..............lol..............<IMG src="cid:C531AE66-2027-49C2-BCDB- >FF8DD7232E5"></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Melissa was <STRONG>afraid</STRONG> to speak too much that she real >y felt better---------as she had been sick for so many years and the 2 p >ior surgeries that had not helped her left her so saddened and angry tha > she had fought me about going to Germany (convinced it would be a worth >ess trip<U>)..............<STRONG>THAT IS HOW THE US SURGERIES AFFECTED >Y DAUGHTER!!</STRONG></U></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>So, all that said.........whew<IMG src="cid:C531AE66-2027-49C2-BC >B-9FF8DD7232E5">......this is why Carolyn is happy......same reason we a >e happy.........she and Melissa <STRONG>FELT DIFFERENT RIGHT AFTER SURGE >Y</STRONG>.......not something</DIV>
>><DIV>that was achieved after US surgery. </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Melissa and I were walking downtown, by the river, etc. on the thir > day after her surgery with Dr. Kruschinski. The next day, we went again >.......and then she began saying her intestines "seemed to be trying t > work"............she had surgery pain, but was not intolerable and she >as on very little pain medication (for surgery pain)............Melissa >as one of the few that had to have more surgery at her second look and t >at surgery was a little harder to jump up from.........but, still not as >bad as what she had had in the US...........by the time we boarded the p >ane to fly home she was opening up a little, talking more, etc........bu > still rather reserved--and the suspense was killing me..............</D >V>
>><DIV>during the flight she said, "Mom, I <STRONG>am</STRONG> a little wo >ried.........I can no longer feel my intestines........it makes me think >something is wrong.........<STRONG>even though I am not hurting in my st >mach like I was</STRONG>, I can't feel my intestines...........and it is >making me worry...........you feel your intestines, don't you???"</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>I realized then, she had NO recollection of what wellness felt like >...........and I had to cry........I gently explained to her, "No, you >are not SUPPOSE to feel your intestines".................then she began >elling me that her stomach had felt SO relaxed since surgery that she th >ught something HAD to be wrong!</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> Dr. Kruschinski said there was not an area of Melissa's large >or small bowel that did not have adhesions............loops and loops an > loops of adhesions..........and he stated to me after her</DIV>
>><DIV>surgery "food could not pass through"...................</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>I was told in the US surgeries, "her bowel is not involved"........ >....</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>So, Sherry, no one is stating anything <FONT face="Lucida Sans">< >TRONG>"<U>for certain</U></STRONG>"...........</FONT><FONT face=Arial> >s we all know LIFE is uncertain.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV>Carolyn was only stating her experience and how glad she is to be F >EE from the pain of adhesions.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>There was a difference after the surgery with Dr. Kruschinski, a di >ference that is FELT in the </DIV>
>><DIV>body, a difference that makes you want to share with others........ >.......</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Best Wishes,</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>Karen</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></ >IV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
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>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href=" >ailto:adhesions@adhesions.org">adhesions@adhesions.org</A></DIV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Monday, Jun > 16, 2003 07:20:30 PM</DIV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="ma >lto:adhesions@dns.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS</A></ >IV>
>><DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: Doct >rs in Chicago</DIV></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV><FONT lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I don't me >n to be a skeptic, but truth is, guess I am. When did you have you > surgery in Germany? Is it not true that adhesions can reoccur eve > years later? How do you know that you are absolutely going to be >dhesion free? <BR><BR>I had an adhesiolysis here in the U.S. in De >ember and am still adhesion free. How do we know for sure your res >lts will be any better than mine?<BR><BR>Again, don't mean this harshly >n any way...just don't see how you all can know <B><I><U>for certain</B> >/I></U> that your results will be better than mine or anyone elses.<BR>< >R>Sherry</FONT>
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>>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:17:10 -0500
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>>From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
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>>To: <adhesions@adhesions.org>
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>>Subject: Adhesions ..&.. Photos of adhesions
>>Message-ID: <013f01c33505$0dfd0460$5f1593ce@olddad66>
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>>X> Adhesions.....To see photos of adhesions: a.) Click: Filmy >Adhesions b.) Click: Filmy Adhesions
>>http://www.danmartinmd.com/adhesions.htm
>>
>>"Adhesions and scar are often used interchangeably. Adhesions are often >used to describe thin or stretched scar. This can also be used for >thick scar. Scar after surgery is similar in both your pelvis and on >your hand. Scar's purpose is to hold your body together. Scar starts >forming immediately. On your hand it is usually able to hold skin >together within a few days. This also happens in the pelvis. This is >normal."
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>>PLEASE GO TO THE ABOVE WEBSITE TO READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE.
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>><DIV><FONT size=2>"Adhesions and scar are often used >interchangeably.
>>Adhesions are often used to describe </FONT><A
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>>size=2>thin or stretched scar</FONT></A><FONT size=2>. This >can also be
>>used for </FONT><A >href="http://www.danmartinmd.com/dense_adhesions.htm"><FONT
>>color=#800000 size=2>thick scar</FONT></A><FONT size=2>. >Scar after
>>surgery is similar in both your pelvis and on your hand. Scar's >purpose is
>>to hold your body together. Scar starts forming immediately. >On your
>>hand it is usually able to hold skin together within a few days. >This also
>>happens in the pelvis. This is normal."</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=2>PLEASE GO TO THE ABOVE WEBSITE TO READ THE REST OF >THIS
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