not meaning suicide, meaning being on pills to the point of not being = aware of anything!...living in lala land.
if you have your family, and no more coming along, it might help.. and = yes, more surguries create more adhesions!
my best to you.
> ----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Soder
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: HELP. a Newbie..my docs are IDIOTS!!
liz: I notice that you mentioned that your hysterectomy ended your = pain. I've been told by drs that I need one. Also have sometimes severe rectal pain and lower back pain (possibly from drain scarring in = cul de sac during surgery). Many people advise me not to have hyster due = to more adhesions. You say it ended your pain. Did you already have = adhesions there? Did the hyster cause adhesions? How long ago was it? = I'm interested because I'm trying to make a decision. Was also considering just having the fibroids removed and keeping uterus but was = told fibroids will come back. Also told that uterus should come out when I get lysis so adhesions dont re adhere to uterus. In a total state of confusion and trying to make things right so i can possibly have a better quality of life. Any input anyone has re this would be so = appreciated. Thanks. Sue <compstar@bright.net> wrote: Yes, David, I totally understand everything in your email. I am 50, = and would go through tests and come up with YOU ARE HEALTHIER then most = half your age. that is what is so frustrating!.. I have always been active, and physical, and I am now pushing my limits on GOOD days, since sometimes it does seem to stretch the adhesions a bit. 3 times now, I believe I = have "ripped" the organs loose as I will have done something, felt a "pull" and them get a circlular brusing pattern on my stomach....but after the = shock and fear that I was going to die from internal hemorraging, I found = I didn;t have THAT paticular pain anymore. I don;t advise trying to rip the = adhesion loose...but I have some days of such frustration, I over do, and ooops! I feel a rip.
yes, 28 yes..... same as my Hysterectomy...and yes, pain in the pelvic region , plus I have pi! ctures now to PROVE I am full of the sticky = mess!
Good luck to you.
--
SueRinOhio
> ----- Original Message -----
From: "Liz in Ohio"
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject: HELP. a Newbie..my docs are IDIOTS!!
> i've just found this forum (thank God). i've been SICK and in pain
> since March with debilitating upper abdominal pain that i KNOW to =
be
> caused by adhesions.
> i've "had" the usual. surgeries for endometriosis. fibroids.
> pre-sacrel neurectomy. and finally a hysterectomy that stopped by
> pelvic pain for good.
> now........it'upper abdominal. under my right breast - underneath =
my
> rib.
> my gallbladder was 'taken' in 1999 - and i SWEAR it's adhesions.
> i've had the tests. been in the hospital three times for tests. =
and
> EVERYTHING is coming up empty. i've already seen two surgeo! ns - =
even
> the guy who took my gallbladder out - and they ALL refuse to help. =
my
> GI docs have given up on me and they want me to see a
shrink.......(DAMN
> - that make me MAD)........
> so. last week i went to a pain specialists who REFUSED to see
> me........didn't want to get invovled. can you
> imagine?.................(what a JERK)
> in the meantime - i'm taking morphine - codiene - for the pain and =
am
> just
> SLAYED by the pain.
> my only HOPE is to see my GYN who has done about 10 surgeries on =
my thru
> the years.........................
> how in the HECK do i convince these weenie doctors that i need some
> relief and it is
spelled........L..a..p..e..r..o..s..c..o...p...y!!!
> any words of HELP are really needed!!
> thanx!!
> signed.
> Liz in Ohio
>
> to the unsubscr! ibe form at
http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------href="mailto:dsoder2003@yahoo.com">Debbie
Soder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=adhesions@dns.obgyn.net
href="mailto:adhesions@dns.obgyn.net">Multiple recipients of list
ADHESIONS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 03, 2003 =
4:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: HELP. a Newbie..my docs are
IDIOTS!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>liz: I notice that you mentioned that your hysterectomy ended your
pain. I've been told by drs that I need one. Also have sometimes
severe rectal pain and lower back pain (possibly from drain scarring =
in cul de
sac during surgery). Many people advise me not to have hyster due =
to more
adhesions. You say it ended your pain. Did you already have
adhesions there? Did the hyster cause adhesions? How long =
ago was
it? I'm interested because I'm trying to make a decision. =
Was also
considering just having the fibroids removed and keeping uterus but =
was told
fibroids will come back. Also told that uterus should come
out when I get lysis so adhesions dont re adhere to uterus. =
In a
total state of confusion and trying to make things right so i can =
possibly have a better quality of life. Any input anyone has re =
this
would be so appreciated. Thanks. </DIV>
<DIV><B><I>Sue <compstar@bright.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Yes,
David, I totally understand everything in your email. I am 50, and<BR>would
go through tests and come up with YOU ARE HEALTHIER then most half<BR>your
age. that is what is so frustrating!.. I have always been active,
and<BR>physical, and I am now pushing my limits on GOOD days, since
sometimes it<BR>does seem to stretch the adhesions a bit. 3 times =
now, I
believe I have<BR>"ripped" the organs loose as I will have done something,
felt a "pull" and<BR>them get a circlular brusing pattern on my
stomach....but after the shock<BR>and fear that I was going to die =
from
internal hemorraging, I found I didn;t<BR>have THAT paticular pain =
anymore.
I don;t advise trying to rip the adhesion<BR>loose...but I have some =
days of
such frustration, I over do, and ooops! I<BR>feel a rip.<BR><BR>yes, =
28
yes..... same as my Hysterectomy...and yes, pain in the pelvic<BR>region ,
plus I have pi! ctures now to PROVE I am full of the sticky
mess!<BR><BR>Good luck to you.<BR><BR>SueRinOhio<BR>----- Original =
Message
-----<BR>From: "Liz in Ohio" <ARTLZ@AOL.COM><BR>To: "Multiple recipients of
list ADHESIONS" <ADHESIONS@DNS.OBGYN.NET><BR>Sent: Sunday, August =
03, 2003
2:28 PM<BR>Subject: HELP. a Newbie..my docs are IDIOTS!!<BR><BR><BR>>
i've just found this forum (thank God). i've been SICK and in pain<BR>>
since March with debilitating upper abdominal pain that i KNOW to =
be<BR>>
caused by adhesions.<BR>> i've "had" the usual. surgeries for
endometriosis. fibroids.<BR>> pre-sacrel neurectomy. and finally =
a
hysterectomy that stopped by<BR>> pelvic pain for good.<BR>>
now........it'upper abdominal. under my right breast - underneath =
my<BR>>
rib.<BR>> my gallbladder was 'taken' in 1999 - and i SWEAR it's
adhesions.<BR>> i've had the tests. been in the hospital three =
times for
tests. and<BR>> EVERYTHING is coming up empty. i've already seen =
two
surgeo! ns - even<BR>> the guy who took my gallbladder out - and =
they ALL
refuse to help. my<BR>> GI docs have given up on me and they want =
me to
see a shrink.......(DAMN<BR>> - that make me MAD)........<BR>> =
so.
last week i went to a pain specialists who REFUSED to see<BR>>
me........didn't want to get invovled. can you<BR>>
imagine?.................(what a JERK)<BR>> in the meantime - i'm =
taking
morphine - codiene - for the pain and am<BR>> just<BR>> SLAYED =
by the
pain.<BR>> my only HOPE is to see my GYN who has done about 10 =
surgeries
on my thru<BR>> the years.........................<BR>> how in =
the
HECK do i convince these weenie doctors that i need some<BR>> relief and
it is spelled........L..a..p..e..r..o..s..c..o...p...y!!!<BR>> =
any words
of HELP are really needed!!<BR>> thanx!!<BR>> signed.<BR>> =
Liz in
Ohio<BR>><BR>><BR>> To remove yourself from the
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form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm<BR>> p.s. =
for the
web forum version see http://www.adhesions.org/forums/<BR><BR><BR>To =
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unsubscribe form at http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm<BR>p.s. for
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