On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:12 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
> Hi Lou, I went to Germany in 2005. I will say that their nurses were
> awesome, the food was great! I would love to know how they made their beef
> broth it was so good and flavorful. I have been contacted by many people
> interested in going to Germany for surgery, I wish that once they did go
> over to have their surgeries that they would continue contacting either me,
> or the website just to see how they have done post op. I am in constant pain
> again, you know the sharp stabbing knife under the ribcage, the ripping and
> tearing before during and after bowel movements, doubling over, the almost
> contraction like pain that hits hard and doubles you over, subsides for a
> few min. and starts all over again. I still live on Percocet, and methadone.
> I was on morphiene for a while. My husband said I would quit breathing, then
> gasp and jerk for air. I took myself off of it, and it was pretty easy to do
> so. I would also fall asleep in a matter of seconds: at the computer,
> standing at the washer with my head leaning against the lid, the best and
> most comical was falling asleep on the toilet, then one night I actually
> fell off (LOL) So many people have their stories of their doctors not
> believing them, mine too. In fact he wants me to read a book, I don't
> remember what it is called but it basically refers to that it may be in my
> mind. ( Gee thanks) Like everyone else too, I wish for a med that will
> actually kill the pain, and that when I call in for refills I am not treated
> like a drug addict. I am also on Prozac 30 mg. for depression. You know if
> "Someone Important" like a movie star etc. had adhesions and dealt with life
> the way we do, someone would be right on top of it to help them. I had
> another bad night so I do need to get back to my best friend the heating
> pad, and my little pillow that I use when I am doubling over and trying to
> walk. Good luck to you. Cheryl D.
>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:43:45 -0600
>> From: louc829@gmail.com
>> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>>
>> What year did you go to Germany,
>> am sorry that you had a few unfortunate experiences and yes does cost
>> alot to go to Germany,
>> it makes no sense that the spraygel is made in the US and is not used
>> by the Drs,
>> look at the money that would be saved, and the people it would help
>> who suffer with
>> adhesion's, what is wrong with the FDA, its sold in other country's,
>> just think one could go locally to have adhesion surgery with sraygel
>> are you in pain now?
>> Take care
>> Lou
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:50 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Dr. Kruschinski did my surgery in Germany. If I could ever come up with
>> > the
>> > money again, I would go back and try again. I had a few unfortunate
>> > experiences getting hurt 7 weeks post op, returning to work way too soon
>> > because the pressure was on, and then had my Gallbladder removed. The
>> > nicest
>> > thing was in Germany, they do not use gas to extend your abdomen. When
>> > you
>> > are recovering, you don't deal with the awful gas pain that feels like
>> > someone is sticking a shovel in your shoulder. The saddest part for me
>> > is
>> > that I will never completely know the results of my 2 surgeries because
>> > of
>> > circumstances. My stomach no longer sucks in and gets stuck so that is
>> > positive. I feel the reason more and more patients are dealing with
>> > adhesions is because the Surgeons are in way too much of a hurry and
>> > that
>> > also they are not cleaning out the area with the Saline as well as they
>> > should too. It is so hard to be so miserable in pain all of the time.
>> > Since
>> > Confluent Surgical (the company that invented Spray Gel) is in the U.S.
>> > that
>> > they would catch some sort of a BREAK with the F.D.A. Good luck, Cheryl
>> > D.
>> >
>> >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:26:51 -0600
>> >> From: louc829@gmail.com
>> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>> >>
>> >> Who did your surgery in Germany?
>> >> Lou
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Mark, all I know about adhesions is that Gas being used to extend
>> >> > the
>> >> > abdomen for surgery causes it, a speck of talc off of gloves, a piece
>> >> > of
>> >> > whatever is used to absorb blood during surgery. I have had 11
>> >> > abdominal
>> >> > surgeries. When I had 12 inches of my colon removed for
>> >> > Diverticulitis,
>> >> > that
>> >> > is when my adhesions started. Before that surgery in 2002, I had 2
>> >> > c-sections, hysterectomy, one ovary, and then the other, tubal and
>> >> > exploratory. It was when my bowel was messed with that they started 2
>> >> > weeks
>> >> > after surgery. The Lysis surgery I had in Germany, my large, and
>> >> > small
>> >> > intestine were stuck to my colon, my stomach was literally sucked in
>> >> > and
>> >> > stuck, it was physically noticeable, it blew my Gastro away. I was
>> >> > also
>> >> > told
>> >> > that I had remnants of my ovary left behind with a cyst on it on my
>> >> > right
>> >> > side. It was not that at all, it was a mass of adhesions. I am one of
>> >> > those
>> >> > people that are a bit hyperactive. When I have had all of my
>> >> > surgeries,
>> >> > I
>> >> > find tricky ways to clean the house, dust, cook etc. I feel that
>> >> > because
>> >> > of
>> >> > being active too soon after surgeries contributed to my adhesions. I
>> >> > only
>> >> > hurt myself! I have promised myself that If I ever have another
>> >> > abdominal
>> >> > surgery for adhesions, I will sit on my rear end, or lay down and
>> >> > rest
>> >> > until
>> >> > I am well. That is a Big if on a surgery again. I hope this helps.
>> >> > Cheryl D.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:02:57 -0600
>> >> >> From: mark7@skynetbb.com
>> >> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> >> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Natrlady21@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Does anyone know what makes existing adhesions continue to grow
>> >> >> > (spread)?
>> >> >> > By
>> >> >> >doin certain activities etc. Are there professional articles that
>> >> >> > talk
>> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Mark writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Without a source of inflammation, I don't think adhesions can
>> >> >> spread.
>> >> >> Sources of inflmmation include: surgery, endometriosis, radiation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you don't mind a little conjecture, I've had email correspondence
>> >> >> from two women who claim ahdesions have formed for none of these
>> >> >> reasons. Just spontaneous formation. I have no reason to doubt their
>> >> >> word. So who knows? I have skin eczema which is a spontaneous skin
>> >> >> inflammation that I can't seem to stop. My skin will literally ooze
>> >> >> liquid for no good reason. So maybe that happens on the inside of my
>> >> >> body, too.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your question, however, may have to do with something else we hear
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> this forum quite a lot. We often hear reports from people saying
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> their doctor has observed adhesions "in greater numbers" than
>> >> >> observed
>> >> >> in the same patient in a previous surgery. Also many people will
>> >> >> make a
>> >> >> statement like, "I had surgery to clean out my adhesions, but they
>> >> >> grew
>> >> >> back in greater numbers." or They will say "their back." This could
>> >> >> mean
>> >> >> simply that the doctor released the pressure but cutting an
>> >> >> "offending"
>> >> >> adhesion, but the wounded adhesion oozes more fibrin and reconnects
>> >> >> immediately after surgery. Time passes, the body shifts and the same
>> >> >> adhesion comes under tension again, resulting in discomfort.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hope this helps. But of course, I know it's not a sufficient
>> >> >> answer.
>> >> >> I'm probably touching on the truth, but I know I'm not quite there.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> truth is that I think nobody can fully explain this awful disease to
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> satisfaction. For example, I have yet to hear a good explanation of
>> >> >> how
>> >> >> temporary fibrin deposits can then turn into a permanent adhesion.
>> >> >> I'm
>> >> >> not satisfied with the explanation that fibrin is the only protein
>> >> >> involved. I think there's another process at work. See wikipedia
>> >> >> article on 'wound healing.' for more info. I haven't read it all. I
>> >> >> get tired easily. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yours,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mark in Seattle
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