Re: Normal Colonoscopy Not So Normal!?-Ginny-long

From: Mary (acbcsrt@kansas.net)
Sun Aug 8 13:17:52 1999


Curious here....I have no pain on the right...all mine is on the left....am I abnormally abnormal?

At Sun, 8 Aug 1999, Christine M. Smith wrote: >
>At Sun, 8 Aug 1999, Ginny King wrote:
>>
>>Hey guys,
>>
>>I'm back from vacation and trying to catch up with everything that has
>>been going on. I hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected.
>>When I got home I had a letter from the GI that did the colonoscopy and
>>had said everything was normal. Well not exactly a letter but the lab
>>results and they showed a "mild chronic inflammation" of the bowel
>>tissue in the left part of the colon. Interesting because my pain is in
>>the right side and radiates to my back. I have to wonder how "mild"
>>this would have been if they had not waited two months to do the test. I
>>guess this would explain the bleeding that I have had but not the pain
>>unless it is radiating. What I don't understand is they did not include
>>any recommendation or diqagnosis from the GI and there is not follow up
>>scheduled. What does chronic inflammation of the bowel mean, colitus or
>>Chrohn's? I guess I'll try and get an answer from my PCP tomorrow when I
>>see her. I think maybe I have two problems, the inflamation and the
>>adhesions. Both the periodic infections that I have had and the
>>adhesions started after I had a severe pelvic infection. Could they be
>>related? Anyway. take care everyone, I missed hearing from you all last
>>week. Ginny
>>
>>--
>>Ginny King
>>
>Hi Ginny:
>Glad to hear you are back. I found both your posts very interesting,
>this one and the one in response to the one I wrote for you last week.
>I'm going to write my response in points so that I don't ramble
>everything all together.
>
>1. You need to get an explanation from *someone* about
> what the mild inflammation is from. I guess your GI
> doc took biopsies when he was in there. That's
> interesting because mine did not, but then I didn't have
> bleeding, occult or otherwise. GI bleeding is never
> normal.
>
>2. My gyn told me that almost all disorders of the pelvis
>refer pain to the right side of the pelvis. I don't think this means
>that you can never have left sided
> pain from a pelvic problem, just that you can't rely
> on right side pain totally being from a problem on the
> right side.This could
> possibly explain why your pain is mostly in your right
> side. In my case, all my major adhesions were on the
> left side, yet my pain was all on the right side.
> However, my sigmoid colon was pulled over and attached
> to the right pelvic wall, so someone might say that
> was causing my pain but I had absolutely no pain at all
> on the left side, yet I have attachments between the
> omentum, the sigmoid colon, and the abdominal wall on
> the left side. And now it is looking like none of these
> problems were the source of my pain!
>
>3. My pain is on the right side and goes through to the
> back, as you describe yours doing. It was when this
> back pain appeared (just this past spring, before that
> it was strictly right lower quadrant pain) that my pcp
> ordered the lumbar
> MRI. It turns out that I have diffuse bulging
> of the discs between L1 and L2, and between L2 and L3.
> It is L1 that innervates the lower abdomen and groin.
> Is this a coincidence? The pain clinic doctor told me
> that bulging discs (which are not as bad as herniated
> discs) cause some people no pain at all, while causing
> other people a lot of pain. Sound familiar? Just like
> good old adhesions!
>
>4. Since you also have other back pain that you described
> in your post, I don't think it would be unreasonable to
> look at
> your lower spine as a source of pelvic pain. There is no
> law that says you can't
> have more than one problem at a time (in other words
> maybe your intestinal problems are unrelated to the
> problem that is causing you right sided pain and back
> pain. ) Or they could all be tied together somehow.
> Since you already have back pain elsewhere, it doesn't
> seem too far fetched to think that you might have back
> pain in another location caused by a problem in the
> lumbar-sacral area.
> When I first had my pelvic/abdominal pain 2 years ago
> my gyn insisted it was most likely a gi or a back
> problem in a woman my age. The GI workup was negative
> but we never did anything with the back because I
> said I had a great back and I had no back pain. Another
> thing that comes to my mind is you saying you couldn't
> walk to your car. Someone with a back problem might
> have that problem. In fact, I know someone who collapsed
> from pain whenever she walked and was better lying down
> (mine is the opposite) They did every test on her, all
> negative, and they did find something on the MRI that
> would account for her pain. Who knows for sure if it
> really was the explanation. Bedrest helped her.
> Yes, I do have
> the problems you are describing with your arms and
> hands. I've had that for years. If I hold the phone
> the wrong way my left hand goes to sleep and sometimes
> my right hand tingles when I use my computer mouse.
> Carpal tunnel syndrome also causes hands to go numb
> during sleep. You might want to try sleeping with hand
> and wrist braces on. It really helped me.
>
>5. I am feeling very good on the celebrex, yet I still have
> some pain in some areas which has remained the same in
> intensity. Does that mean that the pain that is gone
> (almost)(the right lower quadrant pain) was caused by
> inflammation? Why would pain in some areas go, but not
> pain in other areas? These are all questions I have
> to ask
> when I see my pcp the end of the month. Right now I am
> enjoying feeling halfway decent, although I know it is
> not the end of the problem.
>
>Sorry this is so long, hope it helps!
>
>Chris


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