An adhesiolysis procedure is NOT a minor surgery by any means, and I cannot imagine someone electing to go through this type of surgery with ANY surgeon, whether he asks you to cease smoking or not, and know that because you do smoke, you will heal slower, increase your chances of reformed adhesions and set yourself up for living your life with ARD once again! Why do that regardless of who performs your surgery?
And I have to agree with you on one thing...it is totally the patients choice to smoke, and not to quite...I can respect anyones choices as it is thier personl bussiness. Robin will find a surgeon who will perform an adhesiolysis procedure o her, if she or anyone else does not want to comply with Dr. Redans stipulations, she doesn't have to, for sure! It is the patients control as to whom they want to select for thier surgey, no matter what kind it is...and it is also the surgeons r8ight to stipulate the rules and regulations that he feels are best suited for his practice.
This is no more a reflection on DR. Redan then it is on Robin..it is simply a matter of choices...thats all.
There are plenty of surgeons out there who will do surgery on Robin....trust me on that one..and she won't have to stop smoking one bit less then she is now...but this is all her personal bussiness now and not an attack on DR. Redan or ALL surgeons.
Bev
>----- Original Message -----
From: rsh4799@att.net
To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: Surgery & Smokers
> I find myself in a difficult position of not agreeing
> with the choice the doctors are making in not treating
> those that smoke.
>
> Would an ER doctor not save your life because you are a
> homeless person or a drug addict or gay?
>
> Would a dentist not work on your teeth because you don't
> brush your teeth regularly?
>
> I think that these doctors Redan and Reich although
> being highly skilled may be treading on judgement rather
> than giving people a chance even if it is complicated by
> bad health habits.
>
> I myself don't smoke. I see the dangers of smoking.
>
> This is only an observation of these discussions. I
> don't wish to publicly debate the qualifications of
> these doctors nor defend smoking. I just don't agree.
>
> Richard
>
> > Please try to discuss any type of smoking cessation methods with your
> > current medical care provider. There are patches available that will
offer
> > you some help in decreasing and possibly quitting the smoking! Dr. Redan
is
> > correct in his statement that the cells of a smoking person do not heal
as
> > fast as a non smoker as the oxygen is depleted by the pathogens within
the
> > smoke that is taken into your system. As with breathing oxygen, parts of
the
> > oxygen are taken from the lungs and dispensed into our bodies..and that
is
> > then carried out to the cells and tissues of the body, when a pathogen
is
> > taken into our respiratory system..there is depletion of what the body
> > requires to keep the cells healthy...and in most cases with inhaling
> > chemicals in the smoke ( smoke of any kind from any source ) is taken
into
> > the lung cells and depletes the good stuff that goes out into your body
as
> > well as puts out the pathogens into your cells!
> >
> > Not only do you and will you suffer from unhealthy and fully oxygenated
> > blood cells, you also place your lungs in jeopardy by weakening the
cells in
> > your lungs and destroying the tissues and that alone will cause
difficulty
> > with anesthesiology during surgery.
> >
> > This is nothing new to either smokers or non smokers, it is simply a
> > fact..and a not so good one for the smoker. Not only are you in a
position
> > of addition, which is very difficult to fight, and probably will not be
> > fought by you alone at this time Robin, as you do have increased stress
with
> > suffering ARD, BUT...your life depends on what choices and the type of
help
> > you secure in stopping the smoking in order to get the most highly
skilled
> > surgeon to help you through his a surgery that will offer you a better
> > life..in fact, it will offer you a life period!!
> >
> > Slow down in your thinking right now, relax and take it a step at a
time.
> > Maybe it does mean no surgery from Redan & Reich...can you blame them?
You
> > can take care of this part of your health...no need to panick, just look
> > this over and get started on it if you want them to do your surgery! If
you
> > were in need of heart surgery, a transplant or anything of that caliber,
you
> > would have the same requirements...and the surgery planned for adhesions
is
> > just as important as any of the others as it means YOUR life and and
> > future!! Most people that smoke take an offense and suffer not only
guilt,
> > but fear at how to stop it....especially when it means your life depends
on
> > it....do what you can to find a good source of medical intervention for
> > helping you to quite, you have the ARD, nothing will change that short
of
> > surgery and nothing you do short of surgery will change that ARD...but
YOU
> > can take control and responsibility for the smoking as there is help for
> > that and that help can be found and implemented by YOU...will it be
easy,
> > well, as easy or difficult as YOU make it, with the proper mind set and
> > determination, Robin, you can do anything...and to stop smoking in order
to
> > give yourself a chance live without pain the rest of your life...well,
that
> > is all up to you!
> >
> > To quite smoking is not a fight we all have to make in our quest to get
> > well from adhesion disease, and who needs to fight that on top of
adhesions,
> > but in your case you do have that fight...and in the end, the news is
good
> > for you..your health and your life....one is in your hands and the other
> > waits for you!
> >
> > Best of luck my dear
> >
> > Bev
>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robin <rmasse2333@aol.com>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Surgery & Smokers
> >
> > > Are there others that smoke besides me? Dr Redan emailed me earlier &
he
> > > told me "As you already know......No smokers...Your risk of adhesions
> > > returning is VERY High as this keeps oxygen from getting to the
healing
> > > post-surgical tissues and almost certainly will result in a recurrent
> > > problem. Please try and quit ASAP." I have tried to quit several
times
> > > before. I have never been told to quit for surgery, although I have
> > > been told to cut back as much as I could & take a breathing treatment
> > > the night before & the morning before surgery. This is adding more
> > > stress. Now I am much more scared & more frustrated. Now I will
worry
> > > about whether or not I will be able to quit. What If I can't, does
that
> > > mean I cant have surgery? Any advice would be appreciated.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > --
> > > Robin
> > >
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