Re: Another surgery?!?!?

From: Karla N (ifirgit@yahoo.com)
Wed Mar 27 06:28:03 2002


Thank you Cathy. You did a wonderful job of stating the facts. It has come to the point where the only people who are going to be able to afford the proper medical treatment for this disease are the rich. And even then...if they are not educated enough to find the good doctors...watch out! We need to be going to our government somehow...not just to obtain recognition and codes for the disease...we need to address this malpractice situation and how it is forcing these doctors to either stop performing "good" procedures or leave the country. The insurance industry needs to realize how much money they would save by allowing better payment for good procedures. Better procedures equal less treatment in the future.

Karla

--- "cathy:-" <anonymous@medispecialty.com> wrote: > Please please please go to http://www.adhesions.org
> and click on the
> "adhesions quilt" Go down and read the story of
> Karla N. A hysterectomy
> will NOT "fix all of this adhesion growth." The
> adhesions are NOT
> "coming from" your uterus. Your adhesions are
> "coming from" their
> scalpels! An adhesion is a "healed up" surgical cut.
> (That's the most
> common cause of adhesions. The less common cause is
> that an adhesion is
> a "healed up" infection.) If they cut out your
> uterus and/or ovaries,
> then you will grow adhesions from all of the places
> left in your body
> that they cut the organs out of. If they cut every
> single adhesion out
> of your abdomen and very very meticulously tie off
> or cauterize every
> single tiny bleeder, and keep the surgical field
> irrigated the whole
> time, and they do this laporoscopically, then you
> MAY end up 2 weeks
> after the surgery with fewer adhesions than you went
> into the operating
> room with. But this meticulous surgical technique
> is very time
> consuming -- like 6, 10, 12 hours under the knife.
> And it requires
> great skill. The insurance companies have decided
> that they will pay a
> few thousand dollars for this surgery. It costs
> $20,000 to $40,000, so
> basically you are not insured for this surgery. You
> have the choice of
> going to Germany where you can pay for it out of
> your own pocket (and
> the cost is subsidized by the German taxpayers --
> people here have spent
> roughly $6000-$7000 on this option.)
>
> It sounds like your doctors are telling you that
> they are planning to
> just go smashing in there, grab your uterus (and
> ovaries) and then back
> out leaving all of the adhesions and lots of
> dried-out bloody tissues
> behind to form gobs and gobs of new adhesions.
> Unless of course they
> are volunteering to go in and do $40,000 surgery on
> you and take the
> $2000 your insurance company is going to give
> them... Ok, I'm cynical,
> but "follow the money." If the only surgery out
> there that isn't going
> to make you worse is supposed to cost $40,000, then
> don't let anybody do
> $2000 surgery on you instead.
>
> I think the first thing you should investigate is
> whether you need the
> hysterectomy at all. It's certainly possible that
> you have some
> pathology separate from adhesions that make the
> hysterectomy a good
> idea. It is also possible that the adhesions have
> strangulated your
> uterus and it needs to come out. But taking your
> uterus just because
> you have abdominal adhesions makes about as much
> sense as amputating
> your pinky because your thumb has gangrene. (I
> always wonder what it is
> that they tell men who have adhesions in these
> situations. A man needs
> a hysterectomy like a fish needs a bicycle!
> heeheehee)
>
> At Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Angela wrote:
> >
> >I need help! I have had 4 surgeries in the past two
> and half years, and
> >recently,on March 21st after trying to get a
> hysterectomy, the doctor
> >has to stop the operation because I had to many
> adheshions around the
> >bladder. He said if he proceeded I would have lost
> it. So here I am in
> >pain again, waiting for yet another specialist to
> try to fix the other
> >half of the operation my doctor could not complete.
> Will a hysterectomy
> >fix all of this adheshion growth? They say that is
> where they are coming
> >from. And what about bladder operations? I have no
> idea what I am in
> >for and I need some first hand advice on what to
> expect. I want the
> >best doctor I can get, but how do I begin to even
> find one? I just want
> >this pain to be over. I do not want to keep going
> through surgeries and
> >hurting all the time. Ican hardly take it anymore.
> The trauma of all
> >this is starting to take a real emothional toll on
> me. I am a strong
> >person, and I try hard to keep it in so my family
> doesn't know how much
> >it hurts inside, but if I don't get some support
> soon I think I might
> >just lose it. This is all so confusing to me.
> Please any advice?
>
> --
> cathy :-)
>
> http://www.adhesions.org/forums/listcmds.htm

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