>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: MICHAEL MURRAY <mkmurray30@msn.com>
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
>>>Subject: Re: One last time-my story
>>>
>>>> I would have to agree with Lisa on everything she has said.
>>>> I myself have been to Pennsylvania for surgery with no good results.
>>>> I went to Germany last December and had surgery. I came home and had some
>>>> problems in which I notified Dr. K. about. He suggested that I have some
>>>> tests ran and low and behold I had Gallstones. I had my gallbladder out
>>>in
>>>> May. I have to thank Dr. K for suggesting the tests as I don't think my
>>>> drs. here would have thought to do that. I wanted to go back to Germany to
>>>> have this surgery but was unable to go.
>>>> Unfortunately I am experiencing pelvic pain and other problems once again
>>>> and have had to go back on pain patches. I CAN'T SAY THAT IT IS ADHESIONS
>>>> BUT IT FEELS AS THOUGH IT IS. (The only way to know for sure is to go in
>>>and
>>>> look!)
>>>> Would I have another surgery for them in the states? NO!
>>>> I do have a friend from my town that followed me to Germany for surgery
>>>and
>>>> she is doing well. She didn't have adhesions in the pelvic area though.
>>>> I went to Minnesota at one time and was told that it is hard to get rid of
>>>> them in the pelvic area.
>>>> So...I think your best chance is Germany but I don't think we can say that
>>>> it is going to be 100% effective.
>>>> I am glad that there are some on here that feel they are adhesion free now
>>>> but there needs to be some insight on the expectations.
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lisa" <lilylover5555@aol.com>
>>>> To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS" <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:18 AM
>>>> Subject: One last time-my story
>>>>
>>>> > Hey everyone,
>>>> > I'm still seeing a little bit of confusion over the results of many that
>>>> > have been to Germany. I would like to say my peace and clarify some
>>>> > things that I now understand...
>>>> > Both Sally and I have had some trouble after our surgeries with Dr.
>>>> > Kruschinski. I think you all ready knew that we have been up-front with
>>>> > our problems. Sally has told this board of her 1st surgery and the
>>>> > appendicitis that followed, all the problems it caused her with the
>>>> > resulting massive infection, and explosion of adhesions because of that
>>>> > infection. She told us of her 2nd surgery and her reaction to the
>>>> > spraygel??? If that is indeed what happened, she was the first to
>>>> > experience these kinds of problems, and no one knows exactly what
>>>> > happened. She has been very up-front with it all, as have I. I posted
>>>> > last fall of my continuing problems, and that I was told it was chronic
>>>> > pancreatitis, which turned out not to be the case! We have both tried
>>>> > our best to keep you all informed of what is happening with us, we have
>>>> > been honest! In retrospect I guess we could have posted more about this,
>>>> > but it has been a long struggle for both of us, with no definative
>>>> > answers. We also didn't want to drag down others, or give them any idea
>>>> > that the combination Dr. Kruschinski offers is not working! That is
>>>> > simply not true, he offers the best chance we have, in my opinion...for
>>>> > many patients the use of gas in adhesiolysis can be a factor in adhesion
>>>> > formation, so why not get all the help we can get, IF that is the route
>>>> > you choose to take!
>>>> > I also feel the need to clarify something I said awhile ago... that my
>>>> > 3rd look showed a very small adhesion...I stand corrected, and wanted
>>>> > you all to know that! What I saw as an adhesion,(I'm not a medical
>>>> > person) was in fact an "adhesive cord" which is not an adhesion, is not
>>>> > effective as an adhesion, it was very small,1 milimeter, and most
>>>> > important does not mean that I do in fact have adhesions back! I have
>>>> > gotten a second opinion on this matter, and they agree it may(or may
>>>> > not) be an adhesion!I chose to think NOT!!
>>>> > I have said before that I DON"T KNOW IF MY ADHESIONS ARE BACK... I have
>>>> > chosen another route that makes perfect sense to me and my situation...
>>>> > interstiial scarring. I'm still learning exactly what that means, but I
>>>> > think I can safely say it is more about nerves(on a cellular basis) than
>>>> > anything!!If any one has questions about this I'd be happy to try to
>>>> > explain the best I can, but I am still learning!
>>>> > I hope this clears some things up for you all...
>>>> > Lisa
>>>> >
>>>>
-- Hi Lisa and everyone, Its me April, I have not posted in sometime. I spent April and May in the hospital from first what they thought was colitis due to a CT scan showing a thickening in the sigmoid colon...biopsy showed it was not colitis. Anyway alot of you know I had surgery in Germany with both Dr. REich and Dr.Kruschinski. I left for Germany with trouble eating, having bms, and pelvic and upper ab pain. My surgery cannot be considered gasless since Dr. Reich did use it. Dr. Kruschinski did finish and we nt gasless of course. I continue to have upper ab pain thru to the back and groin pain. But my eating and bms are still better than before my surgery. My stay inthe hospital turned into a paralytic ileus from pain meds, pain patch. It was a nightm are, they had to do a continuos infusion epidural to block the most horrible pain ever and get me off the pain meds. After all this they still had to provide pain relief for the groin and upper pain. I am still going to a pain clinic, as\ I cannot do a thing without pain releif. I am more afraid of pain meds after what happened to me but I have no choice as many know how that feels. I still am consi dering going to Germany for gasless with Dr. K. I have much respect for them both, it was a great setup over there. With so many asking questions about Germany I felt compelled to write, and also am just feeling well enough to get up and around a little, I am pretty much housebound and spend way too much time in bed on the heating pad, but I am doing the best I can as all of us are. This is just been a two year battle for me , I know many of you much longer. It is good to share again. Wish everyone well with whatever way they choose. Sincerely, April ps. I am still trying to figure my way around new board.