Re: Dear Laynia, about off board solictation

From: laynia Cortez (laynia223@hotmail.com)
Thu Jul 10 09:37:25 2003


Dearest Dawn,

Well Like I said this site thinks we are all blooming idiots. I guess you must help Dr. Wiseman. You people are all ready to tell me what to do, who I can talk to and everything! If Lisa was a good advocate for Dr. kruschinski she would not be on this site after all the advocates for Dr. Kruschinski were run off. She should have left with them. She spent days trying to straighten out her posts and she confused me and other people too. Dr. Kruschinski has a whole bunch of advocates. And you were the one I am postive that said you owed your whole life to Dr. kruschinski. So why would you want me to look at Dr. Korell? I wish you all would just let me and Dee talk. My goodness gracious, you tell me not to let someone off this board pressure me and you are the one jumping on and starting pressure! I was only talking to Dee. Thanks for your advice but I really didn't need it. Laynia

>From: dawn@naisp.net (Dawn)
>Reply-To: adhesions@adhesions.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
>Subject: Dear Laynia, about off board solictation
>Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:15:06 -0500
>
>Dearest Laynia,
>Please be cautious of people who contact you from off the board without
>your solictation. I am sure they ( whom ever contacted you) mean well
>but the doctors in Germany have advocates here thru the IAS and they
>will be able to give you the most ACURATE information about whatever
>doctor you choose. You need to make an informed decission based on
>facts not conjecture. You need to have all the facts to make the choice
>that is right for you!! not someone else.
>There have been rules in place about posting on the message board for
>sometime now. They were formed without any other ulterior motive but to
>protect us.
>As a group ( remember we have all been told at one time or another it is
>all in our heads, we have become so sick that many of our loved ones
>have turned their backs on us...ect. ect.)we are very vulnerable to
>suggestion and desparate for help and for answers. Many have tried or
>have actually taken serious advantage of us. Some of these stories are
>quite tragic.
>This is a safe place to do your reasearch, ask questions, interact with
>fellow sufferers and if it is time for you to make the decission to seek
>help, all the information you need to make an informed decission that is
>right for you. Lisa Graven is the designated advocate for Dr.
>Kruschinski. Her email is Lilylover5555@aol.com
>She is a wonderful lady who will inform you but not pressure you. No
>one on this board should ever feel pressure! The right decission is one
>you feel comfortable with. If it is Dr. Korall you seek then the
>information is also here.
>Please do not make any drastic decissions until you have educated
>yourself on what it means to be an adhesion sufferer.
>I too have been to Germany and always refer sufferers to Lisa first and
>then if my humble opinion is wanted I am happy to share. Thats the way
>it should be. On your terms and no pressure.
>I believe no one has been ever been kicked off the board....but recently
>a few have constantly overlooked the rules of posting on the message
>board and perhaps sulked away....not kicked off. This is an open forum
>and that is what Dr. Wiseman wants it to be. He works tirelessy to
>help us and indeed to protect us...on many different occasions and on
>many different levels. He is not in it for the money, LOL, this all
>comes from his own pocket and whatever contributions he can get to help
>offset the cost of keeping this safe haven for us to interact.
>Warmest wishes,
>Dawn Rose
>Massachusetts IAS contact
>
> >
> >Krisite,
> >
> >I was looking for information on Germany and thankfully I have gotten it
>off
> >the board by
> >some very caring individuals!! This should be a place for ALL people,
> >looking for ANY information;
> >why have the ones that do have the information on Germany now not allowed
>to
> >speak freely? What one person sees as "cramming" another sees as a
>"chance"
> >to get real help! Many of us have had it
> >with the treatment here in the United States. We have not gotten help. We
> >all need to back up
> >and quit passing judgment on other people. I have found out the people
> >talking about Germany
> >are gone; forced off by the founder of this site. THAT in my opinion is
>the
> >person that is doing the
> >cramming. Now we are being crammed with only one option again and that is
> >help from doctors here.
> >Some of us do not want any more of that! There was nothing wrong with
>those
> >people telling others
> >where they were helped. I am so very glad I was able to hear from them!
> >Just a different view!
> >
> >Laynia
> >
> >>From: extrafeetmom@yahoo.com (Kristie)
> >>Reply-To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@dns.obgyn.net>
> >>Subject: Re: Angry????/ hello Karla
> >>Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:34:35 -0500
> >>
> >>Karla
> >>I read your post on here and on Bombobeach. And I want to say how sorry
> >>I am your feeling so bad. I am sorry your stuggling a lot and in so
> >>much pain. My life has changed, but not as bad as yours. I do feel
> >>like with meds I can get up and do some normal things. And I should be
> >>greatful for that. And I am. I just hope I at least stay this way or
> >>better.
> >>I think people need to be more sensitive to others in a board. I don't
> >>come in here anymore because this board seems so "clicky" and if you
> >>don't speak pro "Germany"....you really don't belong. That's the way I
> >>felt anyway.
> >>I just wish people would be more understanding.
> >>I want to learn about new procedures....but if I dont do it...I am still
> >>ok and still allowed to learn on here.
> >>We are all human...and have our reasons why we do what we do.
> >>Just love the human race....and be respectful. Don't cram anything down
> >>anyones throat. They may have reason's your not aware of.
> >>We are all in this adhesion thing together.....
> >>I am sorry Karla....
> >>I am sorry your stuggling so much...about your grandson...
> >>Feel free to write me....I'll do my best to see you through hard
> >>times...
> >>
> >>Kristie
> >>extrafeetmom
>
>--
>I'm no doctor, just a fellow sufferer like you but I hope you consider me a
>new friend.
>


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