Re: Germany for adhesion surgery with Spray Gel

From: Susan Ramsburg (sbooper548@embarqmail.com)
Mon Jan 19 13:24:43 2009


If yo ever have to have a colonoscopy aganin have them put you all the way out. They can do a much better exam. I had one with anesthic which is dangerous, you could receive a puncture and they csn not see everything they need to. Best to you, God Bless Susan R.

>----- Original Message -----

From: Kelly Murray in To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS

Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:45:15 -0500 (EST)

Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion surgery with Spray Gel

you have Ulcerative Colitus AND adhesions? How terrible. My

husband had Ulcerative Colitus for years and finally had to get his colon

out.

Last time I had a colonoscopy, it was painful. (They told me that I was

fighting them) Of course the Gasteronologist put in her notes that I was

fighting because I had anxiety. I don't think so.

Good luck

>----- Original Message -----

From: wendy hudson

To: Multiple recipients of list

ADHESIONS

Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:55

PM

Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion surgery

with Spray Gel

Hi , I went to see the Gasterentologist and I now have

inflammatory bowel disease (Ulcerative colitis ) I ma going

to have a Colonoscopy and having the adhesions does not make things

any easier...oh the pain........no cure either just meds...

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:50:55 -0600 From: klmurray_61@msn.com To:

adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion surgery with

Spray Gel

My bladder leaks because of the adhesions. I also have adhesions on

bladder, bowel and intestines. Had them on ovaries. sounds like we

pretty much have them in the same place.

>----- Original Message -----

From: wendy

hudson

To: Multiple recipients of list

ADHESIONS

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:30

AM

Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion

surgery with Spray Gel

Because after every meal ( or even a snack)I have sever

bad diahoerra , and sometimes I cannot hold it....the pain grips me like I

am in labour , I get panic attacks... and they are going to find out if its

connected to my adhesions ,I have adhesions on my bladder , bowels ,

intestines and my one and only ovary...I use to go swimming every day to

ease the adhesion pain..........but I started to leak from my bowels into

the water so had to stop...The adhesions tug at my nerve endings causing the

panic attacks... I told my gp if if I have to go on like this for another 20

odd years or more , then I dont want to be here........( hence the

diazepam).....talk about the hidden illness....... yes thankyou kelly ,you

are a darlin'.................much love Wendy xxx

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:54:56 -0600 From: klmurray_61@msn.com To:

adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion surgery with

Spray Gel

Hang in there. Why are you going to a Gasterentologist if you

don't mind me asking?

I know it is very depressing to have this chronic pain and

sickness. I had so many high hopes of getting cured when I got

surgeries from Drs. that specialize in it.

I have horrible pain at night. I do know that exercise does

help. I have not gone to exercise in two weeks and I had worse pain

then when I go. Some of the exercises I can't do because of pain but I

sure feel better afterwards.

I watch my three year old granddaughter and I don't know what I would

do without her. Some days I feel so horrible that I don't want to

watch her but I know that if I didn't have her, I would be in bed a lot

which causes depression for me.

Please just know that you are not alone.

Kelly

>----- Original Message -----

From: wendy

hudson

To: Multiple recipients of list

ADHESIONS

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:05

AM

Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion

surgery with Spray Gel

What about us in the uk? we have national health , so our

surgeons go about things very very cheaply , I have suffered 22 years

now.after having PID endometriosis and 26 other gyno , operations.........

ectopic pregnancy etc...........I have just turned 50 ,I cannot hold my

new baby grandson , for fear of the pain and dropping him , when it grips

it grips.......I am going to see a gasterentologist on the 13th of this

month...I am very scared to have more surgery because I know It will form

more adhesions...talk about catch 22......I am now on diazepam because bad

depression has taken over , some days I feel like just ending everything,

untill I see my daughters faces and my grandsons..........

Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:47:05 -0600 From: klmurray_61@msn.com To:

adhesions@mail.obgyn.net Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion surgery with

Spray Gel

I went to Germany and had surgery with a different Dr. then

Robin. I called my insurance and asked them to cover it. They

said no. I persisted and they did pay for part of it. They

paid me not the Dr.

What you will pay in Germany is much less then what they charge in

the states.

You need to either go to the Drs. website if he has one and it should

give you info. or you need to email him.

>----- Original Message -----

From: Diana

To: Multiple recipients of list

ADHESIONS

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009

12:33 PM

Subject: Re: Germany for adhesion

surgery with Spray Gel

I am in a lot of pain ,please let me know what to do to

get the surgery, if there any payment plan. the arrangement needed to

get there. please e-mail back. -Diane

At Sun, 30 Jan

2005, Robin M wrote: >
>Instead of writing to several

people, I thought >just one post would be

better. >
>Germany is using Spray Gel. I had

surgery >in Duisburg, Germany with a great Dr. It

has >now been over 19 months since my surgery there
>with

Spray Gel. At my 2nd look surgery, I was >adhesion

free. I had been in bed 98% of the >time for the 2 years

prior to my surgery. I >was on 3 very strong pain

meds. With the skills >of the surgeon and Spray Gel, I no

longer lie >in bed praying, wishing, begging God to let

me >die. I am living life now, enjoying the

smallest >of things and some big things too.
>
>The

only thing is our insurance will not pay >for it. Spray Gel

is still concidered >experimental in the US because it is not

FDA >approved. It is also expensive, but worth it.
>I

remember how worth it everytime I go some >where, every time I

pick up and hold my Grand-baby. >I remember how worth it is when I

can do even > the smallest things, take a shower with out

more >pain, getting dressed every day, sitting at

my >computer for how ever long I want, going to see
>my

daughter at choir concerts, sitting in the >living room with my

family watching TV. Things >that 2 years ago I never thought

I would do again. >
>If any of you would like the contact

information >for this Dr or talk about my experience, or

just >talk, email me. I know what you are

going >through and I know that it helps having someone
>that

you can talk to that truely understands. >robin

M >
>At Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Laurie

wrote: >>
>>Well, here I am again, trying to see just

how long I can wait before I >>go back to the doctor with the

pressure I am feeling on my right side >>again. It will

be 1 1/2 years since my last operation which I had to >>have a

kidney removed due to adhesions. Not to bad I say. But

still >>quite tiring. I can never get ahead financially

or at work. Right now >>I am waiting to go permanent at a

company before I go to the doctor.

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