On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:50 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
> Dr. Kruschinski did my surgery in Germany. If I could ever come up with the
> money again, I would go back and try again. I had a few unfortunate
> experiences getting hurt 7 weeks post op, returning to work way too soon
> because the pressure was on, and then had my Gallbladder removed. The nicest
> thing was in Germany, they do not use gas to extend your abdomen. When you
> are recovering, you don't deal with the awful gas pain that feels like
> someone is sticking a shovel in your shoulder. The saddest part for me is
> that I will never completely know the results of my 2 surgeries because of
> circumstances. My stomach no longer sucks in and gets stuck so that is
> positive. I feel the reason more and more patients are dealing with
> adhesions is because the Surgeons are in way too much of a hurry and that
> also they are not cleaning out the area with the Saline as well as they
> should too. It is so hard to be so miserable in pain all of the time. Since
> Confluent Surgical (the company that invented Spray Gel) is in the U.S. that
> they would catch some sort of a BREAK with the F.D.A. Good luck, Cheryl D.
>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:26:51 -0600
>> From: louc829@gmail.com
>> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>>
>> Who did your surgery in Germany?
>> Lou
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM, HERB F DIXON <herbcheryl1@msn.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Mark, all I know about adhesions is that Gas being used to extend the
>> > abdomen for surgery causes it, a speck of talc off of gloves, a piece of
>> > whatever is used to absorb blood during surgery. I have had 11 abdominal
>> > surgeries. When I had 12 inches of my colon removed for Diverticulitis,
>> > that
>> > is when my adhesions started. Before that surgery in 2002, I had 2
>> > c-sections, hysterectomy, one ovary, and then the other, tubal and
>> > exploratory. It was when my bowel was messed with that they started 2
>> > weeks
>> > after surgery. The Lysis surgery I had in Germany, my large, and small
>> > intestine were stuck to my colon, my stomach was literally sucked in and
>> > stuck, it was physically noticeable, it blew my Gastro away. I was also
>> > told
>> > that I had remnants of my ovary left behind with a cyst on it on my
>> > right
>> > side. It was not that at all, it was a mass of adhesions. I am one of
>> > those
>> > people that are a bit hyperactive. When I have had all of my surgeries,
>> > I
>> > find tricky ways to clean the house, dust, cook etc. I feel that because
>> > of
>> > being active too soon after surgeries contributed to my adhesions. I
>> > only
>> > hurt myself! I have promised myself that If I ever have another
>> > abdominal
>> > surgery for adhesions, I will sit on my rear end, or lay down and rest
>> > until
>> > I am well. That is a Big if on a surgery again. I hope this helps.
>> > Cheryl D.
>> >
>> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:02:57 -0600
>> >> From: mark7@skynetbb.com
>> >> To: adhesions@mail.obgyn.net
>> >> Subject: Re: ?How do adhesions grow?
>> >>
>> >> At Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Natrlady21@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Does anyone know what makes existing adhesions continue to grow
>> >> > (spread)?
>> >> > By
>> >> >doin certain activities etc. Are there professional articles that talk
>> >> > about
>> >> >this?
>> >> >
>> >> Mark writes:
>> >>
>> >> Without a source of inflammation, I don't think adhesions can spread.
>> >> Sources of inflmmation include: surgery, endometriosis, radiation.
>> >>
>> >> If you don't mind a little conjecture, I've had email correspondence
>> >> from two women who claim ahdesions have formed for none of these
>> >> reasons. Just spontaneous formation. I have no reason to doubt their
>> >> word. So who knows? I have skin eczema which is a spontaneous skin
>> >> inflammation that I can't seem to stop. My skin will literally ooze
>> >> liquid for no good reason. So maybe that happens on the inside of my
>> >> body, too.
>> >>
>> >> Your question, however, may have to do with something else we hear on
>> >> this forum quite a lot. We often hear reports from people saying that
>> >> their doctor has observed adhesions "in greater numbers" than observed
>> >> in the same patient in a previous surgery. Also many people will make a
>> >> statement like, "I had surgery to clean out my adhesions, but they grew
>> >> back in greater numbers." or They will say "their back." This could
>> >> mean
>> >> simply that the doctor released the pressure but cutting an "offending"
>> >> adhesion, but the wounded adhesion oozes more fibrin and reconnects
>> >> immediately after surgery. Time passes, the body shifts and the same
>> >> adhesion comes under tension again, resulting in discomfort.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps. But of course, I know it's not a sufficient answer.
>> >> I'm probably touching on the truth, but I know I'm not quite there. The
>> >> truth is that I think nobody can fully explain this awful disease to my
>> >> satisfaction. For example, I have yet to hear a good explanation of how
>> >> temporary fibrin deposits can then turn into a permanent adhesion. I'm
>> >> not satisfied with the explanation that fibrin is the only protein
>> >> involved. I think there's another process at work. See wikipedia
>> >> article on 'wound healing.' for more info. I haven't read it all. I
>> >> get tired easily. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
>> >>
>> >> Yours,
>> >>
>> >> Mark in Seattle
>> >>
>> >
>>
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