Re: Charcoal Tablets?

From: Karen O'Keefe (kareno@azlink.com)
Tue May 4 20:53:43 1999


Charcoal tablets can be found at almost any supermarket or pharmacy. They are not laxatives - they eliminate gas and are helpful for digestion. Very natural - give it a try!

Karen >
> I also get the swelling, and have wondered about that. You mentioned
> charcoal tablets. I have never heard of them. Do you find them at the
> pharmacy? and are they easy on the bowels? I was told to take no form of
> laxative, and just was curious. Thanx!
>
> Dee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adhesions@obgyn.net <adhesions@obgyn.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS <adhesions@talk.obgyn.net>
> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:35 PM
> Subject: ADHESIONS digest 21
>
> > ADHESIONS Digest 21
> >
> >Topics covered in this issue include:
> >
> > 1) Re: Adhesions - What else?B.J.
> > by welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> > 2) Re: ADCON(R)-P Adhesion Control Barrier Solution results....Helen
> > by welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> > 3) Re: ADCON(R)-P Adhesion Control Barrier Solution results....Toni
> > by olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> > 4) >>>Women's Surgery Group<<<
> > by olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> > 5) Women's Surgery Group >>>Frequently Asked Questions<<<
> > by olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> > 6) when doctors push you off!
> > by welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> > 7) Comparing Symptoms
> > by bmarra1@nycap.rr.com (B.J. Marra)
> > 8) Re: Comparing Symptoms
> > by "Karen O'Keefe" <kareno@azlink.com>
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:01:10 -0500 (CDT)
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >From: welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: Re: Adhesions - What else?B.J.
> >Message-ID: <199905031301.IAA31705@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >At Sun, 2 May 1999, B.J. Marra wrote:
> >>
> >>I've had 8 pelvic surgeries. You know, the usual GYN crap. But it
> >>wasn't until the last 2 that I really started having problems. Now I'm
> >>like all of you and I hate it. My quality of life stinks. I try so
> >>hard to do all the things I enjoy: running, biking, hiking, working out.
> >>I'll have a run of good days and think maybe it's going to be ok. Only
> >>to be slapped in the face by a reality check. I try to keep my spirits
> >>up, but it's hard isn't it? The company I worked for for yrs just left
> >>the area and they were real flexible with me and my health issues. Now
> >>I have the dilema of trying to find new employment and asking myself can
> >>I honestly give them my best? How long will it be before the pain gets
> >>the best of me again? It's such a vicious cycle. Has anyone out there
> >>had any luck at all with surgery to remove the adhesions? So far all
> >>I've read are negative results. I'm currently trying magnetics: I wear
> >>one around my waist and sleep on a bed pad with 350 of them in it. Who
> >>knows if its working. Anyone else tried magnets? I'm off Lortab which I
> >>took on and off for the last 2 yrs. Boy was that fun (the withdrawals)!
> >>And you guys are right-most doctors just don't want to deal with you. I
> >>was in the ER last Friday and they did absolutley nothing for me. I was
> >>in so much pain that I even took my overnight bag, practically hoping
> >>they'd admit me and do some extensive tests. Fat chance! I didn't even
> >>get a shot for the pain. I guess I'll try a pain clinic. But would
> >>really like to hear from someone with positive results from surgical
> >>removal of the adhesions.
> >>
> >>--
> >>B.J.
> >>
> >
> >Hi, I am Toni, i am also a suffeerer with adhesions, which I believe has
> >taken over my life, and NO dr wants to fool with us. My gyn did 2
> >laparotomies and 2 laps in 6 months, and he said the last laparotomy had
> >to be done just for the fact that transverse colon was stuck to the
> >pelvic floor and was smothering the small bowel, he also said he lysed
> >extensive adhesions from loops of small bowel. I am now going to pain
> >clinic, and the meds are not helping yet, I am on Neorotin, trazadone
> >and I taking darvocet, which does NOTHING for the pulling pain, and the
> >usual pain I have all the time aND THat is always in the groin area, one
> >girl said it right, like and old doll with the rubber bands pulled too
> >tight.
> >
> >I am going to see gyn soon, to look at the pictures, and I want him
> >explain them ALL, and maybe I will understand the pain I am having, but
> >I have NO relation with husband, it hurts too much, now I have to worry
> >about that, I cannot take much more, they say IF a barrier comes out
> >that can be used laparoscopically, he may consider surgery maybe in 6
> >months, they ALL say to stay away from surgery, and learn to live with
> >it, but I am crying daily again you can only take so much! Toni
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:17:12 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: Re: ADCON(R)-P Adhesion Control Barrier Solution results....Helen
> >Message-ID: <199905031317.IAA32624@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >At Sun, 2 May 1999, Helen Dynda wrote:
> >>
> >>As I was searching for articles on second-look laparoscopy, I came
> >>across this article in which Gliatech, Inc. announced (on September
> >>25,1998) the results of its pilot human clinical trial of ADCON(R)-P
> >>Adhesion Control Barrier Solution.
> >>
> >>This is the first article I have been able to find which gives some
> >>information on how the research trials with the gel adhesion barriers
> >>are progressing as the various pharmaceutical companies race to try to
> >>be the first to have their gel adhesion barrier product approved by the
> >>FDA.
> >>
> >>Here is the URL so that you can read about it too:
> >><http://www.intelihealth.com/ipn/pcn/HN/phm/00197724.htm>
> >
> >I am still confused with all these barriers, and do you really think
> >they will be available for some of us, my gyn said to my husband a few
> >months ago, he is willing to do a lap if things keep getting worse for
> >me, but he mentioned a barrier too and waiting for this. Is it far down
> >the road?
> >I Do not want any more surgery, but if they were sure it would work, I
> >would go for it! Still confused!
> >
> >I
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:08:54 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: Re: ADCON(R)-P Adhesion Control Barrier Solution results....Toni
> >Message-ID: <199905031908.OAA13659@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >Toni,
> >As far as I know, winter of 1999 is the earliest predicted time as to
> >the possibility of a pharmaceutical company being able to present their
> >gel adhesion barrier product to the FDA for their approval. I am trying
> >to avoid surgery until I have seen some conclusive evidence that a gel
> >adhesion barrier works and has been approved by the FDA.
> >
> >"Surgery begets adhesions! Adhesions beget sugery." This "Catch-22"
> >situation is a reality! Unless a person can afford to go to one of the
> >best surgeons in the United States, each surgery will cause a patient to
> >develop even more adhesions. This is reality!
> >
> >This brings to my mind some very enlightening information which I read
> >just a few days ago. I will post this web site when I can give your the
> >web site for it.
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:45:08 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: >>>Women's Surgery Group<<<
> >Message-ID: <199905031945.OAA15394@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >The Women's Surgery Group (WSG) is an excellent web site!! I give the
> >WSG an A+ for...
> >
> >..all of the easily understood information which these WSG physicians
> >have included at their site.
> >
> >..continually adding new information on a timely basis.
> >
> >..their laparoscopic Photo Gallery, which includes some of the best
> >pictures I have seen of the various diseases and disorders.
> >
> >..their involvement in Clinical Research.
> >
> >The web site for the Women's Surgical Group is:
> >
> ><http://www.womenssurgerygroup.com/>
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:02:43 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: olddad66@runestone.net (Helen Dynda)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: Women's Surgery Group >>>Frequently Asked Questions<<<
> >Message-ID: <199905032002.PAA16130@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >These are some of the Frequently Asked Questions, which you will find
> >answers to, if you go to the Women's Surgery Group web site:
> >
> >1.) How do I know that my gynecologist is skilled and experienced in
> >laparoscopic surgery?
> >
> >2.) What questions should I ask my gynecologist about his/her experience
> >in laparoscopic surgery?
> >
> >3.) What questions should I ask my gynecologist before surgery?
> >
> >4.) Why is videotaping of the laparoscopic surgery important?
> >
> >5.) Should I insist on the laparoscopic approach to my surgery?
> >
> >6.) Why does my endometriosis keep coming back?
> >
> >7.) Before I agree to laparoscopy for possible endometriosis, what
> >questions should I ask?
> >
> >8.) I have been told my hysterectomy cannot be done vaginally, why is
> >this hot neccesarily true?
> >
> >9.)
> >
> >Since there is no question for number 9, this tells me that there will
> >be more questions and answers to look forward to. This web site is
> >noticeably and actively adding new information to this site as it
> >becomes available to them.
> >
> >You will find the answers to these 8 questions at the following web
> >site:
> >
> ><http://www.womenssurgerygroup.com/frequently_asked_questions.htm#how>
> >
> >This is the web site which I promised I would post here
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:11:43 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: welsh@mail.fuse.net (Toni Welsh)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: when doctors push you off!
> >Message-ID: <199905032011.PAA16680@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >I am still struggling with the gyn I have seen for years, and ALL my
> >faith is in him. He is my referring dr to the pain center, so is is
> >trying to help me, I asked him to do an ultrasound, just in case of the
> >ORS ,I stopped taking premarin, and have no menopausal symtoms, another
> >dr mentioned this could be from the ovary being so stuck, that it was a
> >good chance that COULD be ORS, but all my gyn did was get upset with me,
> >he said he would do an estrogen check, but I am pushing off calling him.
> >
> >I feel like he is sick and tired of hearing from me, and he did say he
> >would take time to sit an show me ALL my photos, and maybe I would
> >understand the pain, but I am scared of bothering him. What would any
> >of you do, I will not find another gyn, he IS just frustrated like I am!
> >
> >Toni
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:47:18 -0500 (CDT)
> >------------------------------
> >From: bmarra1@nycap.rr.com (B.J. Marra)
> >To: adhesions@adhesions.org
> >Subject: Comparing Symptoms
> >Message-ID: <199905032247.RAA23253@talk.obgyn.net>
> >
> >I'm curious if anyone has simular symptoms as myself and what is being
> >done for them. I have sharp, stabbing pain in my right side. Sometimes
> >just this pain. Other times, it is accompanied by other symptoms that
> >seem to radiate from this source such as a pulling feeling in other
> >areas of my abdomen. I have incredible lower back pain. Not always-but
> >often enough. When my bowels move, once they hit a certain spot, it
> >really hurts, then stops once they move past that point. (I don't have
> >a bowel obstruction-supposedly) In addition, my abdomen gets all puffy
> >and bloated looking. It's not my imagination, some days it's flat and
> >then others it just balloons right up. Next to my bikini line incision
> >I get a swollen spot about 4" long. It's very noticable and feels like
> >a balloon filled with water! I've also noticed that about the same time
> >each month, I have my worst bouts of pain, usually around the end of the
> >month. Which coincides to the time I used to have my period. Weird
> >huh? Anyone else experiencing stuff like this? Anyway, for those who
> >read this, please respond and let me know if you are having simular
> >experiences - especially the swelling. No one seems to be able to
> >explain that one!
> >
> >--
> >B.J.
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------
> >Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:25:25 -0700
> >------------------------------
> >From: "Karen O'Keefe" <kareno@azlink.com>
> >To: adhesions@obgyn.net
> >Subject: Re: Comparing Symptoms
> >Message-ID: <372E76B5.96@azlink.com>
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> >My symptoms are similar to yours (fun, huh?). A lot of times if I have
> >to go to the bathroom, I don't get the sensation of "having to go", just
> >stabbing pains. My stomach also swells up quickly and then the pain
> >comes rather quickly and it's intense! I always run and take several
> >charcoal tablets as I believe the bloating is gas trapped in my system.
> >If I take it soon enough, it starts to relieve the symptoms fairly
> >quickly. You can take a fair amount of charcoal and it's better for your
> >system than other OTC gas medications. My stomach is usually flat but
> >when this occurs (which is almost on a daily basis), it will swell up to
> >twice its size in a matter of minutes. My worst bouts of pain are also
> >around my menstrual cycle, which unfortunately has been coming twice a
> >month for quite a while now.
> >
> >Anyway, try the charcoal tablets and see if the swelling goes down. Let
> >me know!
> >
> >Karen
> >
> >>
> >> I'm curious if anyone has simular symptoms as myself and what is being
> >> done for them. I have sharp, stabbing pain in my right side. Sometimes
> >> just this pain. Other times, it is accompanied by other symptoms that
> >> seem to radiate from this source such as a pulling feeling in other
> >> areas of my abdomen. I have incredible lower back pain. Not always-but
> >> often enough. When my bowels move, once they hit a certain spot, it
> >> really hurts, then stops once they move past that point. (I don't have
> >> a bowel obstruction-supposedly) In addition, my abdomen gets all puffy
> >> and bloated looking. It's not my imagination, some days it's flat and
> >> then others it just balloons right up. Next to my bikini line incision
> >> I get a swollen spot about 4" long. It's very noticable and feels like
> >> a balloon filled with water! I've also noticed that about the same time
> >> each month, I have my worst bouts of pain, usually around the end of the
> >> month. Which coincides to the time I used to have my period. Weird
> >> huh? Anyone else experiencing stuff like this? Anyway, for those who
> >> read this, please respond and let me know if you are having simular
> >> experiences - especially the swelling. No one seems to be able to
> >> explain that one!
> >>
> >> --
> >> B.J.
> >
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> >End of ADHESIONS Digest 21
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