I am merely a woman who has suffered from adhesions from having so much abdominal surgery and who has benefited from physical therapy, and ALL I wanted to do was to participate in this forum by letting others know of a possible treatment. I do not think that the International Adhesion Society's purpose is to slander someone who is simply trying to help. Paula M. Zimlicki mkt-pmz@womans.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie and Beverly Doucette [SMTP:bnb@cybrzn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:22 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
>
> Heat increases the blood flow to the already inflammed areas where
> adhesions
> are attached, thus increasing your pain! Joyce, PT can help external scar
> tissue to become more expandable, and it can help muscle tissue as well as
> soft tissues of the body, but it cannot touch the areas where internal
> abdominel adhesions are...it is impossible given the physical anatomy
> ofour
> body..layer by layer of thick muscle tissue and fatty tissue, then
> peritoneal tissue...can't help from PT my dear! but it sure will cost
> lots
> of money to find out it doesn't work!
>
> I fear we have a marketeer looking for some bussiness with a group of
> people
> in pain..if I am wrong, Paula can substantiate her claim as well as I can
> dispute it, agree with that part? I can also prove it is impossible for
> PT
> to help soften adhesion tissue....so therefor I CAN substantiate my claim
> that PT will not help ARD!
>
> Bev
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joyce <Joyce@bellsouth.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
>
> > I also would love more info on PT for adhesions... I would be willing
> > to try it as I've had wonderful success with PT for tendonitis, but
> > adhesions is a far cry from tennis elbow. My argument would be with the
> > 'heat' treatment. Over the summer I tried sitting in a Hot Tub thinking
> > the heat would help my pain. Boy, was I wrong! Apparently, the heat
> > caused more swelling! I ended up in so much pain I had to go to bed in
> > the middle of the day which was a bummer being that I was on vacation.
> I
> > took some Anti-Inflammatory NSAID Medication and just layed there until
> > the pain eased. I was absolutely miserable! Never again will I try heat
> > to relieve the pain. And I've also tried Yoga stretches and Pilates.
> > They both seem to aggravate the condition. It feels like the pulling
> > reinjures the tissue... I would love to find an exercise or stretch
> > that helps instead of hurts.... if PT can help, then I'm all for it...
> > but I have to say, I'm skeptical. Would love more specific info.....
> >
> > Joyce
> >
> > At Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Bernie and Beverly Doucette wrote:
> > >
> > >Please send substantiating information as to how PT can soften adhesion
> > >tissue?
> > >
> > >Adhesions are located deep within the abdomen and many surround the
> > >intestines, as time goes by the adhesion tissue toughens thus
> constricts
> the
> > >intestine or pulls other attached organs out of position more and more,
> how
> > >can PT help in that process?
> > >How does a therepist massage adhesion on the bowel? What about in the
> deep
> > >abdomen? There ia the large thick rectus muscle as well as a layer of
> fatty
> > >tissue between the surface of the abdomen and the adhesions, how are
> the
> > >adhesions massaged?
> > >
> > >A TENS unit is a nerve stimulator, how would that be of benefit on
> adhesion
> > >tissue as there is no nerves in adhesion tissue? And where would a TENS
> be
> > >placed on a person for abdominal adhesions, as without a laporoscopic
> > >surgery, it is unknown where the adhesion are and what they are
> attached
> to?
> > >
> > >Excersise that cause pulling of the organs that adhesions are connected
> to
> > >will increase inflamation thus pain, if a person cannot bend or sit for
> long
> > >due to the intestines not being able to move up and to the back of that
> > >person becasue they are attched to the peritoneum ( inner abdominal
> wall )
> > >wouldn't excersise create even more pain? At times even movement while
> > >riding in a car can cause pain simply from the motion of the moving
> vehicle.
> > >
> > >Are there brochures or information on these treatmenst? What has the
> history
> > >been as far as success? How is this success tracked if there is
> statistics
> > >on PT & Adhesion disease?
> > >
> > >Have you seen adhesion of the bowel or pelvis?
> > >
> > >It is imarative that comments of this nature be substantiated for those
> who
> > >are desperatly looking for medical intervetion and it is also important
> for
> > >them not to pay money they do not have in treatments that will be
> > >ineffective for this disease...it is my opinion that PT will not help
> > >adhesion sufferers other then to empty the pocket books. BUT...show me
> > >proof of all that was discribed here and I will be very willing to
> research
> > >it.
> > >
> > >Your new here, and we are happy that it worked for you, Paula, and who
> did
> > >your surgery? How many surgeries have you had and how may years have
> you
> > >suffered with adhesions? Did you have endo as well my dear? Thank-you
> for
> > >sharing this and we look forward to hearing more on this and answers to
> > >these questions as well.
> > >
> > >Sincerely yours
> > >Beverly
>> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: ZIMLICKI,PAULA M <MKT-PMZ@womans.com>
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> <adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:10 PM
> > >Subject: Re: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> > >
> > >> I suffer from adhesions due to so much abdominal surgery. I had one
> > >surgery
> > >> for the adhesions, which I always found ironic since surgery is what
> > >caused
> > >> them in the first place! The second time the adhesions began giving
> me
> > >lots
> > >> of pain I tried physical therapy, and it worked. The pain was so
> severe
> > >that
> > >> it woke me up whenever I turned over at night. It's important to get
> a
> > >> physical therapist who has received specific training in abdominal
> > >> adhesions. The American Physical Therapy Association, which has a
> website,
> > >> can give you information as to whether a PT in your area is
> available.
> I
> > >> encourage all of you to try this. Through the use of ultrasound, scar
> > >> massage, heat, TENS unit, and exercises tailored toward the
> adhesions,
> I
> > >was
> > >> spared another abdominal surgery. The PT treatment does not get rid
> of
> the
> > >> adhesions but can soften them enough so that they don't cause the
> pain.
> It
> > >> spared me another abdominal surgery! I would be glad to answer any
> > >> questions.
> > >>
> > >> Paula M. Zimlicki
> > >>
> > >> mkt-pmz@womans.com
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: acinom@primenet.com [SMTP:acinom@primenet.com]
> > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:09 PM
> > >> > To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
> > >> > Subject: How do I prevent them from coming back?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi everyone! I just stumbled upon this site tonight, I have yet to
> join
> > >> > the forum, but I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have
> endo,
> I
> > >> > had 2 laps in 99, and I have another one scheduled for October
> 30th.
> > >> > Each of the last times they found more problems with the surgical
> > >> > adhesions from an appendectomy back in 88 with minimal endo. The
> amount
> > >> > that came back in just 4 months was amazing. Well, the pain is
> back,
> > >> > and again I suspect it to be adhesions rather than endo, but who is
> to
> > >> > know for sure which is causing the pain since I have both problems?
> I
> > >> > dont want to take Lupron or any other hormonal treatment other than
> > >> > bcp's particularly because I fear the big problem is the adhsions
> so
> why
> > >> > mess with endo drugs if that isnt the issue? Anyway, my questions
> for
> > >> > you are these:
> > >> > Have any of you tried Acupuncture? Either to relieve pain or to
> keep
> > >> > adhesions from reforming (is this possible?)
> > >> > Is there anything I can do after this surgery to retard the growth
> of
> > >> > this stuff?
> > >> > Please email me at acinom@primenet.com if you can be of any
> assistance.
> > >> > I appreciate it more than you can imagine!
> > >> > I hope this finds you all pain free and blessed with love and
> laughter
> > >> > *HUGS*
> > >> > Monica
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Joyce
> >
>