Re: gallbladder removal

From: brokenwing (anonymous@medispecialty.com)
Mon Jan 22 15:02:35 2001


David, I know how frustrating it can be when all the test you have show "nothing" and you know the pain you are having is very real! I just had a GI Dr. tell me last week it wasn't humanly possible to have the pain I was describing. I had an appendectomy August"99" because of pain in my Rt.lower abdomen when I came out of the surgery I hurt terribly on my Lt.lower abdomen.The Dr. said I was full of adhesions and there was nothing he could do about it.He also said, my appendex did not look inflamed, so looking back at it now I know it was adhesions from the other surgeries.I was walking up to 4 miles a day before that and now the pain is so bad sometimes I can't even walk through the grocery store! I have been to shrinks before and I have been on many forms of Meds, right now I don't take any meds because that would mean going to the Dr. and I have lost all faith in the Med.Profession.Hopefully you will listen to Richards advice and not give up like I have.I am sure there are some good Dr.s out there that are willing to listen. They are just few and far between. Good-Luck and remember it is not all in your head! Keep running for all of us!

At Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Richard Hagen wrote: >
>Its my guess, it can. Is it? I don't know.
>The shrink idea is SOP with doctors who can't help. It also acknowledges
>that the mind does play a part in the pain. The mind or body is telling you,
>"you have pain", and it is not normal.
>Many people have had "all the tests" and they have found nothing. Later one
>thing or another is found by obscure tests, knowledge of the doctor, or a
>happen chance.
>
>1.)You know you had surgery.
>2.) You did have pain initially, subsided, came back. (adhesion
>similarities)
>3.) They can't find anything. (adhesions don't show)
>4.) You are otherwise healthy and not bedridden.
>
>Have an ultrasound in 6 months. Keep a diary. Tell the doctor you think its
>adhesions from the surgery. Tell him thats it and tell him to get busy
>finding a workable solution. If it isn't you will at least get to the bottom
>of it sooner or later. If you give up it may be something else more unusual
>or serious. If you give up you won't know until maybe its too late.
>
>If its adhesions, its a quality of life issue. Congratulations on your
>physical abilities.
>Sometimes exercise makes the adhesions feel worse.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: adhesions@adhesions.org [mailto:adhesions@adhesions.org]On Behalf
>Of David
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 11:00 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS
>Subject: gallbladder removal
>
> In 1994 I had laparoscopic surgery to remove
>a bad gallbladder. Unfortunately the pain
>has not subsided but over the years has gotten
>worse. My doctor(s) have performed every teast
>available, e.g. ultrasound CT (several),
>liver biopsy, cameras down the throat, cameras
>up the rear, ect., ect., ect. Nothing was ever
>found except a little fat on the liver. No
> inflammation of the liver, none of the pancreas.
>Nothing. ERCP to check the biles ducts. Nothing.
>My doctor said that (we) have exausted all tests
>and good luck. The other gastro doc said I should
>go see a shrink. I have no other symptoms besides
>pain. I am an ultra distance runner who is fifty
>years, runs fifty mile(!) races who feels great
>but at times I have this pain that I really don't
>give a shit. Can gallbladder removal cause
>this type of adhesion problem? Can this adhesion
>problem cause this much pain?

--
brokenwing

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