>----- Original Message -----
From: "Helen Dynda" <olddad66@runestone.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list ADHESIONS"
<adhesions@mail.medispecialty.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 9:30 PM
Subject: Many women have been sterilized unnecessarily!!!!
> Beverly Doucette ( bnb@cybrzn.com ) posted the following in September
2000.
> Her message is so important that it needs to be repeated often!!
>
> Women, who suffer from adhesions, are far too often violated when surgeons
> indiscriminately perform hysterectomies as their way of relieving their
> patient's pain . Surgeons like this start to remove totally healthy
organs
> as they try to figure out the source of the pain, which the patient
> complains about. The key words here are "TRY to figure out" -- NOT firmly
> diagnose -- but TRY to figure out !! As a result, many women have been
> sterilized unnecessarily!
>
> A 32-year old woman in my home town had this happen to her! Her OB/GYN
> called her a "whining vagina" because he said that all she does is whine
> about her vagina!! Yes, he is still practicing here. PRACTICING, I might
> add strongly; because he surely isn't experienced, is he!! This kind of
> treatment would never happen to a mentally challenged women in an
> institution...NOT at all! Women, who seek the services of a "supposedly"
> high quality surgeon in their attempt to find medical intervention for
their
> pain, are sterilized after all diagnostic tests result in "negative
> findings" for abnormal pathology!!
>
> There are far too many "supposedly " skilled surgeons, who know all about
> adhesions-related disorder ( ARD )! But these "supposedly" skilled
surgeons
> will do anything -- including lying, unnecesary surgeries, and surgeries
for
> money -- but what is in the best interests of their patient. They will
> suggest a diagnostic laparoscopy...which in and of itself is
good...because
> a diagnostic laparoscopy is the only way to determine what could be
causing
> pain.
>
> When "supposedly" skilled surgeons do a diagnostic laparoscopy -- and find
> adhesions in their patient's abdominal cavity -- they will go ahead and
> start to lyse ( cut ) adhesions without FIRST discussing this medical
> condition with the patient...AFTER the "diagnostic laparoscopy" has been
> concluded. A "diagnostic laparoscopy" IS a "look and find" procedure! A
> "diagnostic laparoscopy" IS NOT a "let's go in and just do what we want to
> do before we discuss it with this "bird brain"...because WE are the
> surgeons!!!
>
> PLEASE, if you suffer chronic pain and your surgeon suggests scheduling a
> '"diagnostic laparoscopy" as the final diagnostic test, INSIST that they
do
> nothing until they have discussed all clinical findings with you. If they
> say they've found NO reason for your pain and all they encountered were
> adhesions...RUN FOR THE DOOR... hospital gown and all!! You might get
> picked up for indecent exposure; but a night in jail is still better than
> having a surgery with that surgeon!!!!!
>
> When a surgeon goes ahead and lyses ( cuts ) adhesions -- when all that
> he/she was supposed to do was to perform a diagnostic procedure -- who
gave
> this surgeon permission to do an adhesiolysis? Isn't it necessary to
> perform diagnostic tests prior to performing a hysterectomy? Before
> performing a diagnostic laparoscopic procedure, isn't it protocol to at
> least take biopsies of tissue prior to performing a hysterectomy ? How
> about doing an ultrasound procedure to determine the endometrial lining
> thickness or other abnormal changes of the uterus...and on and on...
>
> When all of your diagnostic testing is negative and you continue to
present
> with pain, if you're seeing an OB/GYN of this low calibre then... without
so
> much as a pause...he/she will tell you that your reproductive organs are
> very likely the source of your chronic pain. This is a set-up for a
> hysterectomy!!
>
> It MUST be the female organs...even if adhesions had been found in the
> previous surgery. If surgeons didn't think adhesions could cause pain,
why
> would they even lyse the adhesions; and if surgeons lysed the
> adhesions...because they thought they caused pain...then why would a woman
> need a hysterectomy...when she presents with the same or similar kind of
> pain as previously? Might that pain be caused by...tah
dah...adhesions????
> If surgeons know that adhesions cause pain, then they surely know that the
> adhesions will come back following an adhesiolysis. What is wrong with
this
> picture??
>
> Well, when you go to a shoe salesman, you're looking for shoes...right?
You
> are expecting the shoe salesman to sell you a pair of shoes; because
that's
> why you went to the shoe store. You would be offended if he didn't want
to
> sell you shoes!
>
> So, you have pain and you go to a surgeon who does this sort of thing to
> women. What do you expect them to offer you as a recourse to your pain
and
> suffering...and OB/GYNS are surgeons. That, in and of itself, is a good
> thing; BUT most of the surgeons we will ever visit for our chronic pain
are
> NOT skilled or knowledgeable in dealing with adhesions. This is
especially
> true of people, who go to a surgeon who is NOT skilled in dealing with
> ARD...with the full knowledge that they do in fact have a history of
> adhesions. What do you expect them to offer you...shoes?? Of course, it
> will be surgery; and it will either be a diagnostic procedure,
> adhesiolysis, or hysterectomy. Once they have done all that to you, they
> do know that your adhesions will return even worse.
>
> DO NOT let a surgeon tell you that he/she doesn't know about or have an
> understanding about adhesions. THEY ALL know about and understand
> adhesions. Once they have removed your gall bladder, your appendix, your
> ovaries and tubes, your uterus, your cervix, part of your bowel, and in
some
> cases your urinary bladder...when all is said and done...and they offer to
> do another diagnostic laparoscopy in an attempt to find the cause of that
> still lingering pain...and they have to lyse through a few hundred
adhesions
> as they are looking for the "cause" of that ever present pain...if they
> still don't get it, they are either the most dense human beings ever to
walk
> the face of this earth or they are the lowest form of human being to walk
on
> the face of this earth -- because they are doing it for the money !!!
>
> Once this final surgery is done and you're just about as empty as one can
> be -- unless you're a male -- then they will send you to a psychologist;
> and you are started on the Dr. to Dr. game -- but at least that surgeon is
> all done with you; because he /she can't help you any more than they
> already have! Nice of them for helping, huh!!
>
> What has been done to an adhesion-sufferer continues to happen all the
time
> to adhesion-sufferers. No valid pathology for the hysterectomy. You
still
> present with pain; and then the door is shut in your face. If anyone
thinks
> for one second that what I am saying is not true, then think about this
for
> a minute:
>
> When all diagnostic testing produces negative results for the cause of our
> pain and we have an adhesiolysis, some of us feel relief; and then the
> pain gets worse. We, who suffer with adhesion pain, are able to
understand
> that our symptoms get worse after we have an adhesiolysis procedure; and
> yet we go through it again and again with promises of relief from pain
( as
> a result of removal of organs ) which don't work. If WE can figure it
out,
> why can't the surgeons? Are we of greater intelligence? Did WE study
> medicine to know this?
>
> When some of us go to the most skilled surgeons in the world for the
highest
> quality adhesiolysis existing today...and actually get well following that
> procedure...what did they do that the others didn't do? By the time I got
> to Dr. Reich I had few organs left!! In no way could he ( nor would he )
> find something else to blame my suffering and pain on except what WAS
> there...and it was adhesions!!
>
> Shame on you surgeons, who perform unnecessary hysterectomies on
> unsuspecting women. Shame on all of you!! For all of you who have
> experienced this tragedy, GOD will pin these surgeons on what they have
done
> to you; and if they did this to you, they did it to many other women as
> well...and they will pay for it.
>
> Go to Dr. Reich! Make your insurance company pay for your care; and
better
> yet, make your surgeon pay for it; because adhesions for the most part
> result from the negligence of unskilled and lazy surgeons, who won't clean
> up the abdominal cavity after themselves! Slob surgeons are the cause of
> post-surgical adhesions!!
>
> Ladies, if you are suffering from undiagnosable chronic pelvic and /or
> abdominal pain and a hysterectomy is being considered, PLEASE tell the
> OB/GYN that you will in fact be securing a copy of the pathology reports
> following the procedure...and it had better show that you indeed needed
that
> hysterectomy and that adhesions were not found during the surgey!! You
tell
> them that and mark my words...YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN UNNECESSARY
HYSTERECTOMY
> by that surgeon!!!!!!
>